IGN FF16 review is almost like a critique of FF14's own issues

[caffe_macchiato]

Glad to see the usual suspects piling on OP when he’s the only person making a deliberate effort to foster discussion.

Alas, video games used to be about more than just cutscenes and button mashing. It’s sad to see NES games that have more nuance and complexity than something released in 2023, but I guess you’re all here for it, right? It doesn’t matter how much they rip apart our hobby as long as Yoshi-P is on one side and GaiusDrakon is on the other.

What’s most likely is that people will leave behind the Final Fantasy franchise and seek out games with actual gameplay and depth. Many young people play games like Honkai Star Rail, a turn-based RPG. Final Fantasy is a relic not because it’s an RPG, but because CBU3 doesn’t know how to make them. And you all like that…only because GaiusDrakon is the one posting about it. Right?

Hopefully when Yoshi-P resigns from the company, we can get an actual Final Fantasy MMO and single-player counterpart that doesn’t follow the hallway brainrot formula.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Glad to see the usual suspects piling on OP when he’s the only person making a deliberate effort to foster discussion.

Alas, video games used to be about more than just cutscenes and button mashing. It’s sad to see NES games that have more nuance and complexity than something released in 2023, but I guess you’re all here for it, right? It doesn’t matter how much they rip apart our hobby as long as Yoshi-P is on one side and GaiusDrakon is on the other.

What’s most likely is that people will leave behind the Final Fantasy franchise and seek out games with actual gameplay and depth. Many young people play games like Honkai Star Rail, a turn-based RPG. Final Fantasy is a relic not because it’s an RPG, but because CBU3 doesn’t know how to make them. And you all like that…only because GaiusDrakon is the one posting about it. Right?

Hopefully when Yoshi-P resigns from the company, we can get an actual Final Fantasy MMO and single-player counterpart that doesn’t follow the hallway brainrot formula.

Its just a videogame.
Either you like it, or you don't.

Chill out lol its not that deep

[Knot_D]

Glad to see the usual suspects piling on OP when he’s the only person making a deliberate effort to foster discussion.

FFXVI talks in FFXIV forum...? "Foster discussion" with Skiros?

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Eh. To the majority of players these aren't issues. It will sell extremely well and will sit at 8/10 or 9/10 overall in the end.

[Deo14]

Eh. To the majority of players these aren't issues. It will sell extremely well and will sit at 8/10 or 9/10 overall in the end.

So your thought process is "8 or 9 out of 10, good enough, no point of striving to make even better games next time"?

[Stormpeaks]

Shadowlands, that got a bump due COVID lockdown, saw the biggest drop off after launch (and a massive drop in player retention) and most of those players didn't return for Dragonflight. Blizzard even admitted that Dragonflight (despite frantically trying to fix everything that was hated in Shadowlands) numbers failed to meet expectations, and that numbers were much lower than what they wanted.

Course, that would require you having played Shadowlands and paid attention to how the player base reacted to it for you to understand it.

I really dont think we as FFXIV players have any right to talk about player retention, FFXIV easily has one of the worst player retention, and with the 1 year or so content lull coming aside from the BLU stuff and criterion, there will be a gigantic drop in subs.

[Shinkuno]

Shadowlands, that got a bump due COVID lockdown, saw the biggest drop off after launch (and a massive drop in player retention) and most of those players didn't return for Dragonflight. Blizzard even admitted that Dragonflight (despite frantically trying to fix everything that was hated in Shadowlands) numbers failed to meet expectations, and that numbers were much lower than what they wanted.

Course, that would require you having played Shadowlands and paid attention to how the player base reacted to it for you to understand it.

*insert copium meme here*

Keep up the mental gymnastics

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

*insert copium meme here*

Keep up the mental gymnastics

It is funny seeing anyone think that Shadowlands was a success. It has done so much harm to WoW that it even pushed its top streamers to FF14 and the biggest WoW Streamer, Asmongold, no longer focuses a lot of time on WoW anymore and used FF14 as the correct time to expand beyond the WoW IP. Not to mention all the popular (hundreds of thousands of views) vids about what went wrong with Shadowlands and that viewership numbers for all WoW content is massively down.

There's a reason that every unpopular big mechanic/change that was in BFA/SL aren't in Dragonflight at all.

[Shinkuno]

It is funny seeing anyone think that Shadowlands was a success. It has done so much harm to WoW that it even pushed its top streamers to FF14 and the biggest WoW Streamer, Asmongold, no longer focuses a lot of time on WoW anymore and used FF14 as the correct time to expand beyond the WoW IP. Not to mention all the popular (hundreds of thousands of views) vids about what went wrong with Shadowlands and that viewership numbers for all WoW content is massively down.

There's a reason that every unpopular big mechanic/change that was in BFA/SL aren't in Dragonflight at all.

Oh i see your reading comprehension is just bad. How can you be so confident writing paragraph after paragraph while you didnt even understand the initial comment?

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Oh i see your reading comprehension is just bad. How can you be so confident writing paragraph after paragraph while you didnt even understand the initial comment?

I get it. You see FF14 as bad and think Shadowlands is the pinnacle of MMO gaming despite all facts going against that. What a little rebel you are.