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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
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    The thing is that not every game has to be to your liking, people often talk about criticism but ultimately just want the game to change to their taste. But you can never hit the mark with all people so yeah it is more than healthy to go out there and look for other things to do, especially if you aren't having fun.

    That doesn't mean something is bad, it is just not to your liking and that is totally alright.
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    what the hell is wrong with yall lmao

    you people complain that people dont play other games and that they should just quit, and when they do and they post that they finally took the jump and change to a different game, also thanking people making them understand that it would be better to play something else, yall still shit on them because "ok bye no one cares" "ok but who asked" "stop bragging"

    this community seriously
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    Glad you found there is value in playing other games in addition to FFXIV as others have been suggesting.

    Are there things done differently in GW2 that you think are designed better than the equivalent content here, or is it more interesting because of the new/novelty factor?


    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    what the hell is wrong with yall lmao

    you people complain that people dont play other games and that they should just quit, and when they do and they post that they finally took the jump and change to a different game, also thanking people making them understand that it would be better to play something else, yall still shit on them because "ok bye no one cares" "ok but who asked" "stop bragging"

    this community seriously
    Don't confuse the words of a few posters as being representative of the entire community. That's being just as bad as those few that you're complaining about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Are there things done differently in GW2 that you think are designed better than the equivalent content here, or is it more interesting because of the new/novelty factor?
    Honestly the biggest eye opener with GW2 is how active the open world is, people don't just sit in cities, there is always a meta event happening somewhere on the map and people flock to them to get participation awards, that is usually tied to legendary/ascendant crafting.

    It's like, having a FATE, that goes for ~30 minutes, taking you around the map and building up to a big event with a world boss at the end.
    'Battle for Jade Sea' is the latest endgame meta event, and was honestly breathtaking with how the entire event takes place, with big groups of players setting up for the siege and getting all the preparations done in order to fight the final boss, in a big grand showdown.

    Link to a video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqJuYV6bz_M
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    It's designed so that it doesn't have to be a main MMO and to fit with most people's habit of logging in when a game releases a new patch/DLC, then getting bored after a few days and playing another game that released a patch/DLC.

    The content for the people who stay a long time is really things like mount, minion, TT card or glamour collection, sometimes raid progression or social activities like roleplaying.

    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Honestly the biggest eye opener with GW2 is how active the open world is, people don't just sit in cities, there is always a meta event happening somewhere on the map and people flock to them to get participation awards
    It's not quite as long in duration or sophistication as in GW2, but FFXIV does have hunt trains or S rank spawning that can be fun and get a lot of participation.

    It's like, having a FATE, that goes for ~30 minutes, taking you around the map and building up to a big event with a world boss at the end.
    'Battle for Jade Sea' is the latest endgame meta event, and was honestly breathtaking with how the entire event takes place, with big groups of players setting up for the siege and getting all the preparations done in order to fight the final boss, in a big grand showdown.
    That does seem really good. I think as it stands, even when FATEs involve a long chain like that such as in Shadowbringers or ARR areas, hardly anybody cares. The way they could make people care is to make the rewards better, unique, untradable, necessary, and need to be replenished regularly. And to involve all the different class/job roles doing a unique thing that only they can do to support the battle so that you don't have someone just soloing it.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Honestly the biggest eye opener with GW2 is how active the open world is, people don't just sit in cities, there is always a meta event happening somewhere on the map and people flock to them to get participation awards, that is usually tied to legendary/ascendant crafting.

    It's like, having a FATE, that goes for ~30 minutes, taking you around the map and building up to a big event with a world boss at the end.
    'Battle for Jade Sea' is the latest endgame meta event, and was honestly breathtaking with how the entire event takes place, with big groups of players setting up for the siege and getting all the preparations done in order to fight the final boss, in a big grand showdown.

    Link to a video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqJuYV6bz_M
    The Mastery Point trains where the big one for me . Once I discovered that they were in some really tough places (some spawning tough as nails bosses) I started paying attention to the world chats i had noticed before as some good clans/guilds run them every few days.

    They take time out to help any that want to join and take you to places you had no idea existed (as the maps and places to do things are very vertical from HoT expansions and onwards) and those mastery points are vital to build your character account features (mounts and its abilities) and for your per character class builds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen View Post
    The Mastery Point trains where the big one for me . Once I discovered that they were in some really tough places (some spawning tough as nails bosses) I started paying attention to the world chats i had noticed before as some good clans/guilds run them every few days.

    They take time out to help any that want to join and take you to places you had no idea existed (as the maps and places to do things are very vertical from HoT expansions and onwards) and those mastery points are vital to build your character account features (mounts and its abilities) and for your per character class builds.
    Yeah!

    I got all my heart of thorns mastery points from a big train with like 100 people, the community is so active in the open world
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Honestly the biggest eye opener with GW2 is how active the open world is, people don't just sit in cities, there is always a meta event happening somewhere on the map and people flock to them to get participation awards, that is usually tied to legendary/ascendant crafting.

    It's like, having a FATE, that goes for ~30 minutes, taking you around the map and building up to a big event with a world boss at the end.
    'Battle for Jade Sea' is the latest endgame meta event, and was honestly breathtaking with how the entire event takes place, with big groups of players setting up for the siege and getting all the preparations done in order to fight the final boss, in a big grand showdown.

    Link to a video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqJuYV6bz_M
    Man I genuinely wish I could enjoy GW2... Between being absolutely sour that they took the GW1 skin and made GW2 out of it in such a way that it doesn't even feel like a Guild Wars game outside of a few familiar skins (races and map, mostly), and my distaste for the combat... :/

    The art and music are nice, I actually do like how charr are handled vs hrothgar, dynamic events are neat, the world actually has incentive to explore it, but IMO the armor/glamour game is bleagh, I despise the living story system they have (you didn't play during this part? Guess you gotta buy it!), the story itself isn't fantastic (I'll give EoD's story was better than any of the previous stories though), and gosh the combat... it was a neat concept but I found it poorly implemented. Back when I last played, I also tried the hardest... whatever mode it was called, the one below raids, I don't remember exactly, but it was one from EoD and you're on that big circle platform. People said that fight should have been a raid itself because it was so hard and... I went straight in and cleared within like 1.5 hours, it wasn't remotely hard? Just kinda killed off anymore interest I had at the time.

    But yeah, more power to you, OP, I am a bit envious you can enjoy GW2, my hunger for Guild Wars content will remain starved ;_; There are like, so many things that both interest me and kill my interest about that game, it's so frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    what the hell is wrong with yall lmao

    you people complain that people dont play other games and that they should just quit, and when they do and they post that they finally took the jump and change to a different game, also thanking people making them understand that it would be better to play something else, yall still shit on them because "ok bye no one cares" "ok but who asked" "stop bragging"

    this community seriously
    The people who are told that they should try new games cus they seem unhappy here *are* the people telling off the OP for actually doing just that and making this post to say so. It’s not the people who think you *should* do this who are complaining.
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    (that little quip about difficulty wasn't aimed at the Devs).
    \its actually the WOW mentality writ large

    "You should WANT to raid you should WANT to do M plus" Whats your excuse for not raiding" and the ultimate classic

    "It you wont do HARD content its because you actually cant". Its obnoxious. I saw that earlier with a specific forum troll who sneered "You say you dont want to the truth is youre bad and cant do it"

    HOW DARE people do what THEY want instead of what others think they SHOULD DO. THE NERVE of people having choices she doesnt approve of.

    This.
    Is.
    a.
    video.
    game.

    We aint curing cancer, we aint building Mars rockets here.

    Years of pent up frustrations with the direction the game has taken, catering all content to people that want to turn XIV into IMVU, and don't want the be challenged by even the smallest difficulty. It's been 3 weeks, i am a much happier person. I have explored multiple other games, even picked up some side games to play in the 6 months between content patches that XIV has.
    Thats nice, OP, now tell us what your reasons were for posting this in the first place, aside, of course, from slinging mud at others, and generally making yet another asinine "FF 14 is a bad game because reasons....."

    Guild Wars 2, Fantastic MMO, the world actually feels alive, people constantly active in old and new zones alike, actual world content with rewards that makes it worth completing.
    I have GW2. it is interesting , has some bad sides as well as good ones, but I can speak of other MMOs that have the same, each has its own appeal for its own reasons.

    Your point is?

    For 9 years i have been blinded by the simple truth that XIV is not a main MMO. it is made to be played a few times per year, catching up with content and then moving back onto other games. Thank you to whoever told me to go play other games, because XIV will not change regardless of how much feedback you throw at it, and coming to that realization has allowed me to move on and improved my mental health significantly.
    I knew that coming into the game April 2019 . i am glad you are enjoying yourself but again I ask:

    ..why did you post this in the first place?

    Thanks, i've been extremely bitter with the game since the launch of Endwalker (And especially the oceanic server release), and it's been a breathe of fresh air to just go out and explore other games.
    I agree. You and more than a few others. Me? Im running up some craft stuff right now, then Im going to Skyrim, GW2, chess.

    Dixie, if any video game is giving you THIS much heartache then yes, walk away for a while, good idea. Piece of advice, however?

    This

    and don't want the be challenged by even the smallest difficulty.
    is and was unworthy of you.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 06-21-2023 at 03:52 PM.

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