Shadowbringers Relic :A New Path of Resistance quest.

[CNitsah]

I do this thread to suggest some changes for the quest "A New Path of Resistance" of the 80 relic questline.

For this quest you need to gather 15 timeworn artifacts, that are dropped either in Delubrum Reginae (3 per run), either within the palace of the dead : you can drop one on the bosses, with probability rising the deeper you go. From unofficial sources (akhmorning, we don't have any official source for the drop rate, so we'll have to do with that), probability are something like that

Floors 1-60, ~10-20%
Floors 61-100 ~30%
Floors 101-150, ~80%
Floors 151-200, nearly 100%

I feel like this quest need a rework, because with time, instead of easier to do, as other relics are when they basically became glamours, this specific step becomes harder and longer to do. And it was already one of the worst relics steps designed, that make you think "yeah, getting EW relics through tomestones is a good thing".

First of all there is the problem of DR itself. Nowadays, you can feel lucky if you enter it under 30 min. My vision of playing a game not being "waiting in queues forever because there is nothing to do on the overworld while you queue", I find that problematic. There is the option of organised runs, but are less frequent than during ShB cycle.

Then there is PotD. If I can appreciate the will to make PotD revelant again, and giving incentives to do it, let's be honest, we all can see it failed. PotD is back in its nearly dead state, and entering a serie of stages without premade team takes forever... for drop rates ridiculous for the level accessible with DF.

To get to the intesting drop rate, you have to reach floor 101+ which asks you for a premade team. If you're not lucky enough to have friend that want to run that dead content with you, you can basically forget it. People use PF to find a team for a one time run. You can't go "That's too much for me, let's stop here and continue tommorow/next week". (and let's not talk about the 2 slot limitations, that force you to delete a save if you want to try with other people, or limits the possibility of making a new run with you for people who have already 2 saves).

In the end, you have to either wait ages to enter stages with awfully low drop rates, either make a pf and be ready to spend 3/5 hours in potd and try going for the 200 floors, hoping someone is not gonna leave at the moment you finally reach the interesting floors.

Whatever the solution, right now, the difficulty with this stage is not only the content, but the difficulty to enter the said content. Which seems like a big problem to me.


So I have 2 propositions to tackle that problem.

- augmenting the drop rates for stages 50 to 100 in PotD (somewhere in the range of 50/70%, and make all 101+ nearly 100%). It's still gonna be a pain to enter, with infinite queues between each series of floor, but at least the drop rate will make it so most of your series of 10 floors will be worth it.

- make them buyable in zadnor. Several skirmishes give you bozjan mithril coins. Those stacks and are pretty much useless by now so you could make the timeworn artifact buyable for (something like 20-30 mithril coins per unit seems a good possibility).

I doubt that post will ever serve something, but I feel like I had to at least try, because right now, it's just not worth the time it takes for what is now basically a glam.

[CNitsah]

I'll necro my own thread, because the problem is still there, and if anything, it's even worse.

- Something was added to make people enter DR after 8 to 10 minutes, but you end being alone. You feel lucky when you're two to run the thing (and everytime it happened, it took so long the other left before the end of first boss).
- DR normal organised runs seem to have stopped more than a month ago on my data-center.
- PotD is still a pain to enter (it actually takes you more time to enter than run a 10 floors serie).

Really, this is a moonsized pain. Entering the content has become the chalenge for this relic step, instead of the actual content. That specific step was bad during ShB, it's godawful now.

One of my solution is still the same : make timeworn artifact buyable with bozjan mithril coin (15 to 30 seems a good solution to me).

If some you agree, please like the post, since it seems it's the only thing SE looks to. Thx.

[Infindox]

Not sure what DC you are on but at least on Aether, there's at least a few DR normal runs a night. Most people are doing Bozja atm because of how... Interesting (I'll be nice) the EW relics are and people miss the grind, so at prime time DR and both Bozja and Zadnor have enough people in it to get stuff done. Try DC hopping to Aether and looking on PF for a party, or start one there (found they fill up decently) Never queue alone for DR; there's rare occasions that you can end up in a group that decided to run with less then 8, but not always.
Now my issue with DR is that I really think they should change that 10 minute wait period to queue; if you have 8 people they should just let you go in. I've had some rare moments recently that two other groups queued same time and we actually had a 24 man, but that's unlikely to happen most of the time.

[Astrahime]

Have you tried soloing PotD? It's fun, you don't have to wait for other people to show up, and you don't have to wait 3 hours to be let into 61-70!

This is all just you complaining about the fact that you don't want to use Party Finder or take the initiative to make your own parties in it.
I can solo a set of PotD floors in 25 minutes, maybe 35 for the mid-stage ones, and 45 for the ones you're saying have a 100% droprate.
Also, are you kidding me? 25 Mythrils for a timeworn? Maybe 5 Platinums. Mythril Coins exist to be turned into Platinum coins, and nothing else.

And don't act like there's nothing to do in the overworld. You have FATEs, Gathering, Crafting, RP, Hunts, Tribal Quests, and your Sightseeing Log if you haven't done that already.
Try putting up a Party Finder saying you'll pay people 500k each if they stay for floor 51-200. Gil is a great motivator for people ingame.