How can we reopen the FF14 subreddit?

[Chie_M]

Only 800 comments (960 now) but 11000 up votes. If people disagreed I don't think that would be the case.

People upvote for visibility, especially for polls. It's not just used as an "I agree" button.

[Eorzean_username]

People upvote for visibility, especially for polls. It's not just used as an "I agree" button.

I don't know what version of Reddit you've been using, but I have rarely ever seen human nature use that site as "I disagree with this, but will upvote it anyway for Visibility™".

Nearly invariably Downvote = "I don't personally like this".

Also, "official" posts (like weekly stickies, etc) usually get barely any votes, because everyone can see it's stickied and from a mod and therefore feels it doesn't need their support or encouragement.

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Anyway, just to make clear: I am not saying that anyone was wrong for feeling irritated about being inconvenienced, or having your daily routine disrupted. That is a normal reaction.

Instead, I was trying to stress that the intended purpose — site-wide, not just on r/ffxiv — went far above and beyond characterisations of "petty power tripping", which I think is a grotesque oversimplification born out anger and frustration, rather than facts.

Reddit moderators are volunteer unpaid everyday people, so it's not surprising that they have many of the same flaws as other everyday people. I also personally think that r/ffxiv is poorly-moderated and a dumpster-fire of a subreddit. And I've been on the receiving end of obvious petty abuses of moderator power myself throughout my time using Reddit, so I'm well aware of the overall flaws in the system.

So I'm not trying to argue that moderators are ideal people who can do no wrong; I'm simply saying that in this specific case, the site-wide concerns were quite legitimate, and that there will very likely be long-term consequences to quality of information and functionality now that momentum is fizzling out and Reddit will clearly get its way with the changes.

Especially as its the user of said reddits that make it thrive not the mods themselves who don’t contribute much.

I don't think most people understand just how much work the average volunteer moderator actually does in order to keep your favorite subreddit looking clean, presentable, and functioning — capitulating to their requests to retain access to tools that make their job "doable" is a request that frankly benefits everyone, not just them.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Only 800 comments (960 now) but 11000 up votes. If people disagreed I don't think that would be the case.

The thread with 11K upvotes wasn't even the voting thread. It was the announcement of the reddit issues.

[GTK0HLK]

TLDR: People being people are not so used to inconvenience any longer..,
Too long in "Paradise".
So the foundations of its tolerability is gone with the changes.

Easily Reduced to Self Vs Self the majority are, blinded by the one guys words of Landed Gentry.


At the very least the one true lesson learned, is that information shouldn't be held only on reddit.

So any opportunistic Website Managers should get working on it.

As useful as Discords or Reddit Can be, it's ridiculous to be beholden to them, when they decide to Actually Hold Info and knowledge to themselves.
Unlike a Rich One Man's bait of Landed Gentry.

[ZephyrMenodora]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...n_for_posting/

Looks like they fully reopened 20 minutes ago as it became quite clear that's what the users wanted.

Was a nice awareness-raising effort, but glad it's back for those who enjoy posting there.

[anna-steele]

i hate reddit. i hope it shuts down forever

[Fawkes]

At the very least the one true lesson learned, is that information shouldn't be held only on reddit.

So any opportunistic Website Managers should get working on it.

Probably the most depressing part of all this, and also people being mad about twitter, is that it seems like everyone else is terrified of having to pay for bandwidth or something and we're never going to have anything like the transition from myspace to facebook ever again, we're just stuck with the crappy social media we have now.

[Rolder50]

At the very least the one true lesson learned, is that information shouldn't be held only on reddit.

So any opportunistic Website Managers should get working on it.

This game desperately needs a wowhead or icy veins equivalent.

[MsMisato]

so people can now return to the daily 50k posts about miqote and aura lewd art followed by viera feet pics and sprinkled with some elezens art on reddit. got it.

[Iscah]

so people can now return to the daily 50k posts about miqote and aura lewd art followed by viera feet pics and sprinkled with some elezens art on reddit. got it.

I haven't been on Reddit for that long, but I've never seen the FFXIV sub looking anything like that.

Either it has cleaned itself up or this was never true.

At a quick browse through the first few pages right now, it's mostly people asking for help with aspects of the game or discussing it, a few memes and non-lewd fanart mixed in. The sort of stuff I would have expected the official forum to be a hub for, basically.