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    Quote Originally Posted by dansetal View Post
    The official Discord doesn't want to hear dissent and kicked a bunch of people who don't agree with the blackout and mute you if you disagree. The blackout vote is brigaded since it's open to everyone and pro-blackout Redditors vote continue on every blackout vote against the wishes of FF14 players who use the subreddit.

    I'm at a loss here and I miss being able to post on the subreddit and it seems like the blackout will just continue forever. It's a huge blow to the community for the mods to continue the blackout indefinitely even when spez doesn't care so the blackout only hurts the community without giving us anything in return. Other social media platforms just aren't really the same as Reddit.

    Anyone have any idea how we can reopen the subreddit? I've been thinking of finding some people together to request to mod a private sub as it's against the Reddit rules.

    Sorry if this post violates forum guidelines but there's nowhere else to talk since the subreddit mods censored everything (they banned a lot of people on the discord)
    People being jerks to you aside: I suppose we could always start a competing FFXIV subreddit. That would likely have the official one open up immediately. Something we've seen the last couple of weeks, if people hadn't already seen it, is the FFXIV Reddit and the Discord are run by petty tyrants drunk on power.

    Right now, they're lording over people and abusing that power.

    But if they saw a credible rival rising, they'd fear that they will lose their monopoly on FFXIV discussion forum power and probably instantly reopen the Reddit to prevent a competitor from cutting in and making them obsolete.

    EDIT:

    He is kinda right about this, though:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Doing something that inconveniences others will not make them be on your side.

    Also, the reddit protest is beyond idiotic. Its a bunch of freeloaders who don't realize all these API tools utilize reddits resources which costs them money. The days of all these free services on the internet are coming to an end because just like twitter, reddit was never a profitable business.
    When you're fighting the good fight, you can't start by alienating the people you need on your side to win it. Make your movement toxic enough, and it will be easy for "the powers that be" to put it down, as they'll have the support of the general public in doing so. It's why terrorism and such seldom works, since unless people already REALLY hate the people in power to the point they're willing to die to depose them anyway, they don't support things that actively harm themselves to do so. It's why there's a limit to how long strikes can go on, not just from the business/employer side, but also the employee side, as eventually the customers, who you need on your side to effect changes, will start to ignore the strike lines if they become too onerous to their lives.

    It is true that you have to confront power sometimes, and those in power don't tend to just change because they're asked, but if you're actively alienating other people, then they're more likely to reflexively take the side of those in power. Especially if the topic isn't something of universal good and evil and is rather something arcane and technical. Most people don't know what API tools are, much less any of the nuance around the conversation. They just see a bunch of mods have heavy handed shut down discussion and are getting salty the longer it lasts.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 06-19-2023 at 09:47 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT