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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    That’s how I feel. I don’t think a tiny number of moderators should be able to control if hundreds of thousands of people who use their subreddit get to engage with it. It’s pretty selfish. People should have their own decision if whatever is going on rises to the level of not using thr platform.
    So if we found out SE was severely underpaying their GM team but were still within a legal threshold. In other words, they were being incredibly cheap but not doing anything illegal, and the GM team decided to go on strike. You'd side with SE in this hypothetical? After all, a full GM strike would be a massive inconvenience for the majority of users while only benefiting a small minority moderation team.

    Reddit's CEO is playing on this exact mindset that the masses won't care that actually managing and moderating reddit will become significantly worse because they just want to poke around on the website. It isn't selfish whatsoever. The mod teams are essentially unpaid workers and are trying to protest a change which makes their job harder for no benefit to anyone else, users included, but to make a rich man richer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    So if we found out SE was severely underpaying their GM team but were still within a legal threshold. In other words, they were being incredibly cheap but not doing anything illegal, and the GM team decided to go on strike. You'd side with SE in this hypothetical? After all, a full GM strike would be a massive inconvenience for the majority of users while only benefiting a small minority moderation team.

    Reddit's CEO is playing on this exact mindset that the masses won't care that actually managing and moderating reddit will become significantly worse because they just want to poke around on the website. It isn't selfish whatsoever. The mod teams are essentially unpaid workers and are trying to protest a change which makes their job harder for no benefit to anyone else, users included, but to make a rich man richer.
    These aren't paid positions, they are volunteer positions. Collective bargaining for employees has nothing to do with volunteer moderating an internet forum. They can decide not to volunteer and move on.

    Edit: In general though yes I would side with SE. Those GMs knew the hourly wage offered when they accepted employment. The marketplace solution if a request for a raise is denied is to find a higher paying job and leave, and if SE thought they had enough value they could counter. If the pay was vastly under market they'd probably also have a hard time keeping the role filled.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 06-19-2023 at 07:28 AM.