How can we reopen the FF14 subreddit?

[ZephyrMenodora]

Except most subs did user polls before blacking out. Like the XIV one. So its not a "few people". You just seem to have something against reddit mods for some reason.


Why aren't you upset with the company exerting its level of power and control and forcing a small amount of users off their preferred way of accessing the site and removing tools used to make reddit a safer experience for people, especially the underaged.




Reddit also forces a popup on all mobile browser users, having removed the option of disabling it, trying to force you to use their app. I don't need an app. I can't open multiple tabs in their app. Stop asking me to use the stupid app.

I don't have any problem with mods in general. In fact I appreciate their time and service under normal circumstances. I was even fine with the 2 day blackout to raise awareness so individual users can make more informed decisions to stay on Reddit or not. 80% of mods made the decision to reopen, in fact, and I appreciate thier continued work.

My appreciation ends when they use their power to remove access to the community to hundreds of thousands of people. Even if a majority voted for the blackout (and I'd love to see how many votes there actually were vs. members...), it's still impacting a rather large number of users who don't agree and just want to use the site.

Most mods are not the originators of these communities. And a lot of them actively sought out these positions for whatever desire/enjoyment they get out of moderating.

I already said I think Reddit should have comparable solutions in place before making these changes. But Reddit owns its platform and they are free to make decisions, for good or ill, and as a consumer I can decide, on my own and not with a mod making a decision for me, if I still want to patron their site.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I don't have any problem with mods in general. In fact I appreciate their time and service under normal circumstances. I was even fine with the 2 day blackout to raise awareness so individual users can make more informed decisions to stay on Reddit or not. 80% of mods made the decision to reopen, in fact, and I appreciate thier continued work.

My appreciation ends when they use their power to remove access to the community to hundreds of thousands of people. Even if a majority voted for the blackout (and I'd love to see how many votes there actually were vs. members...), it's still impacting a rather large number of users who don't agree and just want to use the site.

Most mods are not the originators of these communities. And a lot of them actively sought out these positions for whatever desire/enjoyment they get out of moderating.

I already said I think Reddit should have comparable solutions in place before making these changes. But Reddit owns its platform and they are free to make decisions, for good or ill, and as a consumer I can decide, on my own and not with a mod making a decision for me, if I still want to patron their site.

Excep you are also making a decision for others. You aren't giving them the option to boycott be closing a sub reddit that affects reddit income and has a chance of forcing changes.



You as a consumer want to force other consumers to abide by your will.



And you said you don't even use the site, so why do you even care?

[ZephyrMenodora]

Excep you are also making a decision for others. You aren't giving them the option to boycott be closing a sub reddit that affects reddit income and has a chance of forcing changes.



You as a consumer want to force other consumers to abide by your will.



And you said you don't even use the site, so why do you even care?

Huh? They can boycott entirely on their own. This is forcing others into their boycott and that's where I draw the line. What a bizarre thought process you have there.

I also said I don't use the FFXIV sub. I use the site a lot.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Huh? They can boycott entirely on their own. This is forcing others into their boycott and that's where I draw the line. What a bizarre thought process you have there.

I also said I don't use the FFXIV sub. I use the site a lot.

Subreddits as a community also have the option of boycotting, which is what's happening. So again, you want to remove the community voice option, in favor of single users.



Which would be even worse in terms of making actual changes happen.