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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanCousland View Post
    my guy im active in this season not just sitting, also my point was that i made it to t100 S6 on my 1st attempt and continue to keep climbing as i was in the 90's last week and jumped to 76 also i would say that below 50 arent just sitting, considering the daily update list disproves your assertion, and of course you say something regarding getting carried from the bench of a ranged player pov




    as for this ^ by all means use your proficiency in the reverse then id take your example with more validity




    as far as im aware we've had limited encounter like one or two not exactly to be considered "consistently" , and there is no we its just you spamming and lastly not every match you lose is some elses fault
    We've played together quite a bit, sorry if you don't pay attention to the other players around you. You might want to start learning player tendencies on top of raw job knowledge, since the matchmaking pool up here gets pretty small. Knowing who you're playing against is almost as important as what they're playing. I don't even spam quickchats LOL, I just use a 321 target countdown and the LB% qc 99% of the time.

    You wanna switch main jobs for a week? You play BRD for a week and I'll play PLD. If I'm just "getting carried from the bench" then try to get top 3 damage dealt almost every match (beating out SMNs and BLMs and DRGs) and 100% kill participation almost every match. There's a reason my peak rating this season is ~1800 with over 100 fewer victories than you.

    As for the leaderboards updating, only 18 out of the T100-T50 players have gotten any +victories since the last board update. They've parked where they sit, and you're ranking up bc you're walking past people who are standing still.
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    Last edited by Myrha_Lhlalheva; 06-20-2023 at 04:40 PM.

  2. #32
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    To be honest this whole thing made me think that maybe we spamm this forum too much with whining and too little with sharing tips about jobs. It's not exactly easy in pvp to find social places where people can do that unlike for pve.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    To be honest this whole thing made me think that maybe we spamm this forum too much with whining and too little with sharing tips about jobs. It's not exactly easy in pvp to find social places where people can do that unlike for pve.
    That is a very unfortunate observation, yeah... hence why I posted those PLD tips, unorthodox as they may be.

    Finding social places is difficult, it used to be PvPaissa discord, but then it fragmented into many subcommunities.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrha_Lhlalheva View Post
    We've played together quite a bit, sorry if you don't pay attention to the other players around you. You might want to start learning player tendencies on top of raw job knowledge, since the matchmaking pool up here gets pretty small. Knowing who you're playing against is almost as important as what they're playing. I don't even spam quickchats LOL, I just use a 321 target countdown and the LB% qc 99% of the time.
    Odd if i didn't pay attention to others around me then i wouldn't be covering, also i have enough "raw knowledge" to block sam lb among other aspects, could be better ill give you that, you using a 123 countdowns is the first ive heard and have never seen so maybe
    you might be exaggerating our encounters, because if I was getting carried then aren't you as well as those on our same team able to carry me then or you gonna chalk it up to everyone else bad too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Myrha_Lhlalheva View Post
    You wanna switch main jobs for a week? You play BRD for a week and I'll play PLD. If I'm just "getting carried from the bench" then try to get top 3 damage dealt almost every match (beating out SMNs and BLMs and DRGs) and 100% kill participation almost every match. There's a reason my peak rating this season is ~1800 with over 100 fewer victories than you.
    A week would be to small of a sample size (which seems to be your MO) let's make it the rest of the season, as for your numbers you do realize there are top 10 players with 500+ Vs with a credit disparity so not sure what flex your trying to pull here

    Quote Originally Posted by Myrha_Lhlalheva View Post
    As for the leaderboards updating, only 18 out of the T100-T50 players have gotten any +victories since the last board update. They've parked where they sit, and you're ranking up bc you're walking past people who are standing still.
    I like how you're moving the goal post from everyone below 50 is just sitting to now its just a small number which the change of people going up isn't indicative to activity,
    You last comment I've addressed further up
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    That is a very unfortunate observation, yeah... hence why I posted those PLD tips, unorthodox as they may be.

    Finding social places is difficult, it used to be PvPaissa discord, but then it fragmented into many subcommunities.
    Those PLD tips were pretty solid, I hope they were helpful for OP. Only thing I might add is that it might be helpful to think of Intervene as a defensive cooldown, since it'll grant you Sword Oath and therefore healing.

    For general tips @ OP I would definitely say learn to manage your universal cooldowns, ie Guard, Purify, Sprint, and Recuperate. You don't have to reflexively Purify any and all crowd control--only crowd control that would cost you your life or prevent you from securing a kill. Sprint is a short GCD, so don't lock yourself out of buttons if the timing/distance doesn't warrant a sprint. Recuperate should always be used for its full 15k heal value, but don't hold it too long. The ideal balance for skirmishing is 7500 MP (taking advantage of passive MP regen) and ~90% HP. Obviously all bets are off when it comes to all out brawling, but do be aware of your MP and try to sneak in a Standard-Issue Elixir whenever time allows. Staying topped up and managing Recuperate makes a huge difference over time.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanCousland View Post
    Odd if i didn't pay attention to others around me then i wouldn't be covering, also i have enough "raw knowledge" to block sam lb among other aspects, could be better ill give you that, you using a 123 countdowns is the first ive heard and have never seen so maybe
    you might be exaggerating our encounters, because if I was getting carried then aren't you as well as those on our same team able to carry me then or you gonna chalk it up to everyone else bad too?

    A week would be to small of a sample size (which seems to be your MO) let's make it the rest of the season, as for your numbers you do realize there are top 10 players with 500+ Vs with a credit disparity so not sure what flex your trying to pull here

    I like how you're moving the goal post from everyone below 50 is just sitting to now its just a small number which the change of people going up isn't indicative to activity,
    You last comment I've addressed further up
    Buddy, guy, pal. I think you might need to work on your reading comprehension. I never doubted that you at least have job knowledge--I was suggesting you start learning players as an additional thing. We've played together a lot more than "two or three times" in the past week alone LOL. This is what I mean by you not paying attention to your matchup pools. Know who you're playing against, what their main jobs are, what their habits are, how they like to position during map openings, etc.

    A week would be more than enough for you to see that a) I know how to play PLD, and b) you don't know how to play BRD. And none of the players currently in T30 have over 500 wins, let alone T10? The highest is 434, and they're at Rank 15. There's some miscommunication going on here. Also BRD isn't a hard carry job--even the best BRD on Primal (which is arguably me) can't save a match where our PLD repeatedly tries to commit to losing fights bc he seems to think Crystal contest uptime is more important than allowing our dead to respawn and regroup. BRD is a force multiplier job, and I can't multiply negatives into positives. If you think "best BRD on Primal" is a tall claim, I'm the ONLY BRD main on Primal currently in T30, and the only T100 player to stick to BRD as a main after the 6.4 nerfs.

    And I never moved any goal posts. I said, and I quote, "most of the players below rank 50 have parked the bus and don't even play anymore." You have a post quoting me as saying exactly that. Idk about you, but 32 out of 50 seems like "most" to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    To be honest this whole thing made me think that maybe we spamm this forum too much with whining and too little with sharing tips about jobs. It's not exactly easy in pvp to find social places where people can do that unlike for pve.
    we treat it how the devs treat it, like a redheaded stepchild.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrha_Lhlalheva View Post
    Buddy, guy, pal. I think you might need to work on your reading comprehension. I never doubted that you at least have job knowledge--I was suggesting you start learning players as an additional thing. We've played together a lot more than "two or three times" in the past week alone LOL. This is what I mean by you not paying attention to your matchup pools. Know who you're playing against, what their main jobs are, what their habits are, how they like to position during map openings, etc.

    A week would be more than enough for you to see that a) I know how to play PLD, and b) you don't know how to play BRD. And none of the players currently in T30 have over 500 wins, let alone T10? The highest is 434, and they're at Rank 15. There's some miscommunication going on here. Also BRD isn't a hard carry job--even the best BRD on Primal (which is arguably me) can't save a match where our PLD repeatedly tries to commit to losing fights bc he seems to think Crystal contest uptime is more important than allowing our dead to respawn and regroup. BRD is a force multiplier job, and I can't multiply negatives into positives. If you think "best BRD on Primal" is a tall claim, I'm the ONLY BRD main on Primal currently in T30, and the only T100 player to stick to BRD as a main after the 6.4 nerfs.

    And I never moved any goal posts. I said, and I quote, "most of the players below rank 50 have parked the bus and don't even play anymore." You have a post quoting me as saying exactly that. Idk about you, but 32 out of 50 seems like "most" to me.
    Seriously do I need to quote you saying what you're denying?

    Also if we have played against/with each other as much as you claim Odd how I'm finding out about this on the forums and not through discord or in game tells?

    As for your rebuttal to my comment on the T10 my apologies I should have articulated better when I said "there are" I meant in the general sense past and present, but never less my point is made about whatever nonsense you're trying to prove about victory:credit ratio,

    Again if you're saying I'm being carried in most/all my matches while simultaneously saying that every match you and I are in results in a loss because of me, well I gotta say I'm no math surgeon but something doesn't add up to these claims
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    I'm not gonna even go into the ego of your claim considering there's a lot to unpack but I will say as it seems you may be laboring under some misapprehension that I belittle or degraded your skill as a brd my comment wasn't about you being carried it's about you only climbing with ranged/BRD (as youve stated yourself)and giving melee class any grief, like I said you wanna go the rest of the season as opposite classes I'm game or we each go 1 week as each other's main to verse off against either way I'm fine with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrha_Lhlalheva View Post
    Buddy, guy, pal. I think you might need to work on your reading comprehension. I never doubted that you at least have job knowledge--I was suggesting you start learning players as an additional thing. We've played together a lot more than "two or three times" in the past week alone LOL. This is what I mean by you not paying attention to your matchup pools. Know who you're playing against, what their main jobs are, what their habits are, how they like to position during map openings, etc.

    A week would be more than enough for you to see that a) I know how to play PLD, and b) you don't know how to play BRD. And none of the players currently in T30 have over 500 wins, let alone T10? The highest is 434, and they're at Rank 15. There's some miscommunication going on here. Also BRD isn't a hard carry job--even the best BRD on Primal (which is arguably me) can't save a match where our PLD repeatedly tries to commit to losing fights bc he seems to think Crystal contest uptime is more important than allowing our dead to respawn and regroup. BRD is a force multiplier job, and I can't multiply negatives into positives. If you think "best BRD on Primal" is a tall claim, I'm the ONLY BRD main on Primal currently in T30, and the only T100 player to stick to BRD as a main after the 6.4 nerfs.

    And I never moved any goal posts. I said, and I quote, "most of the players below rank 50 have parked the bus and don't even play anymore." You have a post quoting me as saying exactly that. Idk about you, but 32 out of 50 seems like "most" to me.

    and lastly yeah you are moving the goal post by completely disregarding the fact that victories alone aren't enough of an indicator as to whether t100 is active be it below or above 50
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    who cares? ranked does not mean anything. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanCousland View Post
    and lastly yeah you are moving the goal post by completely disregarding the fact that victories alone aren't enough of an indicator as to whether t100 is active be it below or above 50
    What? You've already quoted me, and I requoted myself. Are you telling me that 32/50 players are active but haven't won even once? That's a pretty bold assertion.

    I tried to send you a friend req last week but your friend list is full LOL. My point still stands that 300 wins at peak rating 509 is not exactly an amazing performance.

    And I'm still not sure what your point is about my main job, are you saying that all ranged players just get carried? Nikau is an amazing MCH/DNC, Finch is an incredible BLM (unless you aren't counting casters), and there are several other ranged DPS players that honestly deserve the T1 slot. If you think I'm wrong about being the best BRD, name someone better who still mains BRD. There are only ~4 other BRDs in T100 and they don't even main it anymore + I know for a fact by repeated matchups that I'm better than them.
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