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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    Very predictable. You're just lucky with someone's spinelessness. I myself do not put marks on anyone and never did. Because in a difficult situation it demoralizes people who are already stressed and under adrenaline. The mark will not help the fool, but the one who made a mistake can be pushed to confusion.

    Usually if this mark appears on me during a fight, I deliberately let myself be killed and then leave the group. If these people can win without me, let them win. During this half an hour of a penalty, I will make another glam, craft or have a nice chat with friends. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. Because not a single match is worth it, especially a team of some people who do not know how to solve such situations in a different way.
    You are free to do what pleases you. It is fairly difficult to actually make me push the callout + mark macro on purpose, given the extensive requirements it takes before I do, especially in casual. For all I know you'd never qualify.

    If all it takes for someone to retaliate is a single mark after being off the wrangler for 5+ solo engagements as I tell them to pull back for the x-th time and causing a match long 4v5 OR someone being mad they get it from being a dipshit spamming PUSH THE CRYSTAL like they're trying to perfect their osu APM score for over half the match and making my ears bleed, chances are I don't care they left.

    Nor would I care for the exchange I'd have with a GM if someone insisted on reporting me after they "weren't spineless".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    You are free to do what pleases you. It is fairly difficult to actually make me push the callout + mark macro on purpose, given the extensive requirements it takes before I do, especially in casual. For all I know you'd never qualify.

    If all it takes for someone to retaliate is a single mark after being off the wrangler for 5+ solo engagements as I tell them to pull back for the x-th time and causing a match long 4v5 OR someone being mad they get it from being a dipshit spamming PUSH THE CRYSTAL like they're trying to perfect their osu APM score for over half the match and making my ears bleed, chances are I don't care they left.

    Nor would I care for the exchange I'd have with a GM if someone insisted on reporting me after they "weren't spineless".
    No, this is not a "Push the Crystal" or "Nice job!" story. This spam can be easily ignored, although it is really annoying. I'm talking about marks due to deaths or accidental jumps or mistakes.

    If you follow the fight closely, it's usually clear what's going on. Therefore, I don’t understand why put ignore marks, if everything is clear anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    No, this is not a "Push the Crystal" or "Nice job!" story. This spam can be easily ignored, although it is really annoying. I'm talking about marks due to deaths or accidental jumps or mistakes.

    If you follow the fight closely, it's usually clear what's going on. Therefore, I don’t understand why put ignore marks, if everything is clear anyway.
    Fair enough on the first point. While I think you may already know the gist of why I do it, just to be sure - I am not talking about accidental mistakes, jumps or engagements, I mean situations like "everyone died, guy respawns earlier than us and engages 1v5 before we can even stand in our spawn, over and over". I am not so heartless to put it on very apparent newbies, but if I have a track record of playing with them and they CONSISTENTLY do this, I will do as described and also reach out to them after matches, usually to have a bit of a soft talk about last (few) matches. They usually improve upon that.

    Short - I use markers as an extension of communication, not to tilt people with it or use it as a reaction when tilting myself. Granted I AM a bit of an outlier on that, so I can see the confusion when they see a marker like that in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    And sure, tell me to git gud while you're at it like everybody else on the damn forum. PLD is impossible to climb with compared to other jobs. The fact that it's a team game where nobody wants to work together obviously shows that Ranked is an utter shite show and should be shut down.
    I'm late to the party on this one.

    Stop trying to win. Start being as annoying as humanly possible. Get in people's heads and make sure they're miserable when playing against you. Seriously, I'll say it again. Your life ideal is to be as obnoxious as possible, that's your new win condition.

    You cant count on your team.

    You can count on your ability shut down people and make them wish they just didnt play the game.

    Purposely overextend and get good at using defensives and stuns and kiting away from people to waste time. It doesnt matter the rank, ff14 players are unsophisticated when it comes to pvp and will take the bait 80% of the time. This will work even up to platinum/diamond.

    Get good at sitting on the point until their whole team gets there, then kite around a corner (most teams wont follow) to drop agro, then back on the point when they start trying to push forward. Waste.That.Time.


    Climbing will be a byproduct of you just being obnoxious.


    Edit:

    Also turn off your chat, completely. No channels. You don't talk anymore, you emote like a mime.

    It's ultra effective. Make sure your character has an obnoxious laugh. Turn off emote messages to chat. Spam it so that everyone hears. It will haunt their dreams at the end of the night.

    Have the squat and pushup emote? No? Time to grind it. Then spam it on people who are dead.

    FF14 people have massive egos, they will tunnel vision you to no end if you bruise their egos.

    This ends up making them waste resources on you (which you've become a master at ducking out and drawing out fights) and give your fledgling team mates the ability to blast at least one person down.

    Mind game is like 80% of the battle.
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    Last edited by yaba_gabagool; 06-27-2023 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    Mind game is like 80% of the battle.
    ^ This is very true.

    The more you tilt your opponents, the more likely it is that they'll make mistakes that throw the game entirely. Even some high crystal tier players can get their ego bruised.
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    Last edited by Aravell; 06-27-2023 at 01:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    .

    Have the squat and pushup emote? No? Time to grind it. Then spam it on people who are dead.

    Do you know TOS is update that using emote on that person after KOing that person is against tos And technically get you banned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    Do you know TOS is update that using emote on that person after KOing that person is against tos And technically get you banned?
    Pretty sure if you're not right ontop of them it should be fine.
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    And l have to admit l don't think it got enforced that often unless someone got reported many times from different people
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    I'm late to the party on this one.

    Stop trying to win. Start being as annoying as humanly possible. Get in people's heads and make sure they're miserable when playing against you. Seriously, I'll say it again. Your life ideal is to be as obnoxious as possible, that's your new win condition.

    You cant count on your team.

    You can count on your ability shut down people and make them wish they just didnt play the game.

    Purposely overextend and get good at using defensives and stuns and kiting away from people to waste time. It doesnt matter the rank, ff14 players are unsophisticated when it comes to pvp and will take the bait 80% of the time. This will work even up to platinum/diamond.

    Get good at sitting on the point until their whole team gets there, then kite around a corner (most teams wont follow) to drop agro, then back on the point when they start trying to push forward. Waste.That.Time.


    Climbing will be a byproduct of you just being obnoxious.


    Edit:

    Also turn off your chat, completely. No channels. You don't talk anymore, you emote like a mime.

    It's ultra effective. Make sure your character has an obnoxious laugh. Turn off emote messages to chat. Spam it so that everyone hears. It will haunt their dreams at the end of the night.

    Have the squat and pushup emote? No? Time to grind it. Then spam it on people who are dead.

    FF14 people have massive egos, they will tunnel vision you to no end if you bruise their egos.

    This ends up making them waste resources on you (which you've become a master at ducking out and drawing out fights) and give your fledgling team mates the ability to blast at least one person down.

    Mind game is like 80% of the battle.
    where is the lie?
    Also side note, don't emote ontop of a body it will get you banned. stand at least a couple yalms away from the dead body before emoting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    where is the lie?
    Also side note, don't emote ontop of a body it will get you banned. stand at least a couple yalms away from the dead body before emoting.
    *aggressively /bstance motion as MNK*
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