Positivity!

[Stormpeaks]

To be fair, china has their own game. Cause it's china. WoW had to change too back then to their culture, i think mostly to not show undead creatures or so cause that is wrong in the chinese culture? And we outsiders can't even access that game.

And you forgot South Korea! They always get the glam for the mogstore first! I want to throw my money at SE too...should move to Korea...



Thank you i will definitely steal that and you can't stop me!

To give a tiny bit of context, VelKallor here is pretending that people from new zealand, australia and asia are the reason why we get queues of 40+ people at 5 AM on a weekday on Chaos which is an EU DC, which lets be honest is just laughable, however what I will gladly believe is that the queues are made of the hundreds of lala bots flying under Limsa and other main cities and they create those queues

[Ranaku]

To give a tiny bit of context, VelKallor here is pretending that people from new zealand, australia and asia are the reason why we get queues of 40+ people at 5 AM on a weekday on Chaos which is an EU DC, which lets be honest is just laughable, however what I will gladly believe is that the queues are made of the hundreds of lala bots flying under Limsa and other main cities and they create those queues

Is that 5am EU time or NA time? Cause 5am in NA would be like 8pm in EU which is the start/middle of prime time for EU. But yeah that with the bots is true, same with people which afk in the game for 24/7.

[VelKallor]

To give a tiny bit of context, VelKallor here is pretending that people from new zealand, australia and asia are the reason why we get queues of 40+ people at 5 AM on a weekday on Chaos which is an EU DC, which lets be honest is just laughable, however what I will gladly believe is that the queues are made of the hundreds of lala bots flying under Limsa and other main cities and they create those queues

Actually what I said was

And yes Stormpeaks, FF 14 is GLOBAL in nature, you get people logging in from all corners of the globe at all hours of the day, so YES , you DO get people from NZ, you DO get people from AU, you get people from Greece, the Mediterranean, China, all of EU, all of OCE, ( which is a REGION if you recall ), NA, people have alts /characters on multiple worlds.

You really arent helping yourself here. But thank you for proving what I sad about you.

[Stormpeaks]

Is that 5am EU time or NA time? Cause 5am in NA would be like 8pm in EU which is the start/middle of prime time for EU. But yeah that with the bots is true, same with people which afk in the game for 24/7.

In this context we're talking 5 AM EU time yeah, but I absolutely refuse to believe that there are that many australians and people from new zealand/asia playing with a thousand ping on EU, the fact they keep going with that argument is just laughable, but with the amount of bots traffic there is in this game and the constant teleporting through maps and logging in/out (you can literally see them teleport through everywhere in Limsa), I wouldnt be surprised if those bots were why there is even a queue in the first place at such a time in the morning

Actually what I said was



You really arent helping yourself here. But thank you for proving what I sad about you.

What a load of......good GRIEF.

Had it EVER occurred to you that you have people logging in from all over the world, and whilst it may be 5am there, it isnt everywhere else? You DO know how timezones work?




Where the HELL did you get this asinine idea from.???

There are players from NA, AU, NZ and god knows where else logging in. or do you think that EU players ONLY play on those servers? FF 14 has a GLOBAL audience. BTW your mention of China was kinda funny, seeing as 5am EU time is 1:56pm their time.

Also: 5am EU time is 11pm in the US. Oops.

Something to consider, no? But here, this may help:

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

This



Is the definition of delusional.

OH GOOD LORD I almost forgot, it is entirely possible that EU players are on at 5am, see, they can log in and play in the early hours when they are on vacation anytime they feel like. They get 4 weeks mandated annual leave per year, paid. Did you also know that if they dont take that leave, their employers will LITERALLY take their computers and laptops away and SEND them on leave?

They do.

We Aussies also get the same, 4 weeks paid annual leave ( mandated, which means its the LAW ) so we can stay up and play all night if we feel like it. So, no Im not surprised at all if people are on at 5am EU time. They get ample leisure time to enjoy themselves.

Works for me.

Right back at you buddy

[CStrife912]

Regardless of what was said I like how people continue to edit quotes which technically is against the forum rules so can lead to complications. Why alter quotes to alter a narrative rather than give proper debate is what I say. Anyway stormpeaks is someone I know is clearly passionate in this instance and it can come across as abrasive or harsh. There is truth behind why they say but it doesn’t mean I have to see eye to eye on every point.

I think the forum needs to do what Reddits doing and shut down for a little bit haha might clear some heads ah who am I kidding we’d be right back to square one. Forum posters are a small percentile of the community everyone who’s not here are likely playing the game or quit either or. I think people need to not react directly to troll threads. Post positive threads not directly reactionary to a negative one and maybe it would all be better received because if they do still get bombardment from the negative lot then it helps their narrative that people who love and want to talk positively can’t thrive but until the in fighting stops that ain’t happening.


I’m half asleep this is waffle nonsense lol

[VelKallor]

Anyway stormpeaks is someone I know is clearly passionate in this instance and it can come across as abrasive or harsh. There is truth behind why they say but it doesn’t mean I have to see eye to eye on every point.

I can think of a few other words.

I think the forum needs to do what Reddits doing and shut down for a little bit haha

Dont expect that to end well. The people who run reddit are sick and tired of these mods little tantrums. Their mods have actually goner AGAINST what their members want,in doing so have locked off years of content they have not created and dont own.

Reddit at the moment is revenue negative, which means that these little power tripping are locking off subs that are costing the company money.

TANSTAAFL. - There aint no such thing as a free lunch. A lesson they better learn now.

“I think every business has a duty to become profitable eventually — for our employees shareholders, for our investors shareholders and, one day as a public company, hopefully our user shareholders as well,” said Huffman, who co-founded the site in 2005.

Those mods better remember what usually happens to companies or organisations that cant, or wont, turn a profit.

[Stormpeaks]

I can think of a few other words.



Dont expect that to end well. The people who run reddit are sick and tired of these mods little tantrums. Their mods have actually goner AGAINST what their members want,in doing so have locked off years of content they have not created and dont own.

Reddit at the moment is revenue negative, which means that these little power tripping are locking off subs that are costing the company money.

TANSTAAFL.

A lesson they better learn now.

Looks like you ignored the fact you said you didnt say it, and now that I showed you evidence of... your own post, you're ignoring it.

Next time you try to make me look like a liar and try to portray me as the bad person, look at your own posts, you quite literally called me a liar knowing very well you had said exactly what I mentioned.

At least own up to it instead of ignoring it.

[VelKallor]

Right back at you buddy

That word "global" really goes over your head, doesnt it.

Now if you will excuse me, Im going off to GW2 for a while.

[Stormpeaks]

That word "global" really goes over your head, doesnt it.

Now if you will excuse me, Im going off to GW2 for a while.

Yeah sure buddy, you keep that denial up, you said exactly what I said, its literally your own post.

There are players from NA, AU, NZ and god knows where else logging in. or do you think that EU players ONLY play on those servers? FF 14 has a GLOBAL audience. BTW your mention of China was kinda funny, seeing as 5am EU time is 1:56pm their time.

Also: 5am EU time is 11pm in the US. Oops.

At least own up to it and dont be an hypocrite.

I might not be the nicest on these boards, but if I am wrong I at least own up to it and have done so on many occasions, apparently you dont have the gut to do it.

[Anonemoose]

Given that most of your parents bought you computers instead of raising you properly, I'd like to imagine that you all would at least have a cursory understanding of how network infrastructure works in exchange for all the developmental milestones you missed.

The queues are the result of a buffer that pulses people through on dynamic server ticks, to prevent situations where too many people trying to log in at once crashes everything with no survivors. There's even a Lodestone post describing exactly that from Yoshi-P if you don't believe me and care enough to dig it up.

Any other explanation is a conspiracy theory and/or pseudo-intellectualism. Get help.