Positivity!

[Zachia]

I see a lot of negativity on this forum for some reason. I do not understand it outside that "people come to the forums to vent and complain". I don't see how people think Endwalker is bad, let alone the story or gameplay. I don't understand how the class mechanics are "2 min meta" / "bland, boring, and the same". As someone who came from WoW for 16 years, this game is superior in pretty much every way.

I am trying to max all my jobs to 90, i'm so close! But doing all the roulettes every day, from beast tribe dailies, to the stadium crafting questlines, the fate farming, housing / decor, from the raiding content there is just so much to do. I can game for like 10 hours a day and barely have enough time to do everything i want in the first half of every week. Let alone even play other games to mitigate burn out. I still have achievements to hunt, mounts / collectibles to collect, relics i haven't even started. Sometimes I just feel like i'm drowning in content and it is glorious!

So anyways the only way I can think people aren't having fun or think there is nothing to do is because they have limited themselves in what they do inside the game. Maybe they are exclusively raiders and ignore the 80% of the other stuff in the game. But as someone who wants to do everything even the pvp I honestly think it will be impossible to collect al the collectibles, the achievements, and achieve everything the game has to offer.

[Stormpeaks]

ah, just what this forum needed, toxic positivity

"look at me guys i'm right there is so much to do in the game and you all are wrong you negative nancies you didnt even do the achievement that requires you to fish 10000 fishes !!!"

[Zachia]

So an echo chamber is what you desire? Feeling angry and disgruntled with the game you claim to love and have voices justify your feelings? You know from what i've read on the first 2 pages no one is offering feed back? What will make the story better, what will make the game better? Do you have to kill off important scion characters like Y'sthola for the story to have impact? Do raids need increased difficulty, more mechanics? Are you wanting your raiding expereince to be like a dark souls game? Are the rewards not good enough for your time? Even though games are meant for you to have fun and enjoy yourself in? But please, insult me instead of trying to fix anything.

[Stormpeaks]

So an echo chamber is what you desire? Feeling angry and disgruntled with the game you claim to love and have voices justify your feelings? You know from what i've read on the first 2 pages no one is offering feed back? What will make the story better, what will make the game better? Do you have to kill off important scion characters like Y'sthola for the story to have impact? Do raids need increased difficulty, more mechanics? Are you wanting your raiding expereince to be like a dark souls game? Are the rewards not good enough for your time? Even though games are meant for you to have fun and enjoy yourself in? But please, insult me instead of trying to fix anything.

I personally dont play the story so I wont touch that topic, as for dungeons and raids they can both vastly be improved yes, especially dungeons with a system like Mythic+ from WoW to make it fun to repeat over and over again, while still not mandatory at the same time.

The housing system needs to be improved as well, more wards need to be added and more items that actually have the same theme need to be added as well.

[Renathras]

Don't let the bitter bother you. I'm with ya. Game's fun and there's a lot to do. Many people want to be bitter and they want everyone else to be as well.

Don't get me wrong, the game's not perfect and there are things to critique, but some people have taken it to the levels of a religion to hate not only the game but everyone who likes it. If they truly were only interested in critiquing the game, as they say, then they wouldn't attack people being positive about it or sharing their enjoyment of it.

Doing that isn't critiquing the game.

[Saraide]

The biggest challenge in the game is for someone to make a positiv thread about something without it being a direct reaction to a negative thread. So difficult that no one has managed to beat it so far but we have our best people on the case.

[Zairava]

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You figured out what the forums are meant to be for, voicing your complaints and criticisms about the game.

Not everyone is going to be interested in doing every type of content, that is an impossible standard to meet. So when there isn't enough of a particular type of content during the expansion to satiate those players, or if it does exist but the rewards are lackluster for some reason, of course it's going to be met with negativity and complaints.

Compared to the prior expansions where we had eureka, bozja, actual relic grinds, etc, even though there were things to give feedback on, there was still more to do before the lull really set in.

Achievements are not content, they are just bonuses from doing the content, and to bring up my prior point, not everyone is an achievement hunter because it simply isn't worth their time to bash their head against the wall crafting an abhorrent amount of collectables. That content exists for that particular set of people, not for everyone.

The 2 minute meta is quite literally how the combat is designed, all of your most potent raid buffs along with lesser powerful raid buffs and ALSO your most potent abilities are in that selective 2 minute window, it is inevitable that it will wind up feeling the same in some capacity.

Based off your join date, of course you still have content to do, you started roughly half a year before Endwalker launch, so of course there's still a lot for you to do. There are quite many of us who have been here for 6+ years who have been there, done that. This expansion is perfect for new players if it's your "main game", not so much us vets who have already done the old content.

I'm not some hardcore raider, but there just isn't much for me in the game right now. Which is fine, it gives me some time to play other games while I wait for resets.

This isn't all to say that you aren't justified in voicing positive feedback either, if you're enjoying the game I'm happy for you and hope you continue to enjoy the game.

[Antharaes]

You're not alone. WoW refugee as well and I do enjoy the game. Keep that positive vibe, it's needed.

[Zachia]

So whats wrong with the raids? I'm having a blast with normal raids / trials. Is savage (and or higher) not difficult / rewarding enough? I understand the desire for end game repeatability with dungeons like mythic plus however just saying the game is bad without trying to make a massive thread with tons of support about say adding in mythic plus variant isn't going to help anyone. TBH i only found out recently a lot of things I want to do with housing requires a mod just because of how the system works. I would think Square Enix knows its a big issue and are working on a fix but i'm only a couple years into this game. But outside specific content / difficulty how does that relate to endwalker being worse than heavensward or any other expansion. Cause tbh from story, to zone design, and or content availability, heavensward seems like the weakest expansion in game and thats not a troll statement, its a personal opinion.

[Shinkuno]

Oh look, another WoW Refugee coping how this game is the best ever and they had more fun in the first 5 minutes than 20 years of WoW combined.


Hint: if you need to tell yourself and everyone how amazing everything is, then its not really that amazing.