PSA: Do not undercut people by 50k gil or more

[seerstone]

im going to undercut as much as i want if you are undercutting me by 1 gil every 30 minutes

[KitingGenbu]

OP, you dont pay my sub, so.....

[Tabmow]

yet another pointless thread from someone who thinks the entire game is all about them.

[Themarvin]

Well if someone posted an item for 10million and it is only worth 2million then I am going to undercut with 7.95millions...

It is not rude, and if your speculation has failed on whatever item, then that is just a part of the game also organized trade cartels and the likes where you are only permitted to do that even though you could sell more items quicker and faster, due to eg, having a much better Chain Supply Line or cutting out the middleman by doing parts of it yourself, just means you are more competetative.

am gonna undercut for 50K or more, if the item is not worth it.. if it is flooding the market, even more.

[Venari]

Ah yes, if no one is buying the thing for 200k but only costs like 20k to make or farm, it's totally worth reporting the person for selling it at 150k or less instead. /s

Welcome to the free market, if you can still make a tidy profit by undercutting severely, then the item probably deserved to be undercut. If it no longer becomes profitable (or the profit margin not worth the time), people eventually stop making/farming it. If it turns out that unprofitable item is in high demand, then it eventually goes back up in price to become profitable very quickly.

If what you're saying is true and you really do believe an item is worth 90k, then keep selling it at that price. Eventually either the supply dwindles enough and the demand is still high that people are willing to pay 90k, or it was never worth that and the guy setting it at 40k had it right all along. If you're feeling really ballsy and confident of your price, just buy it off him and put it back up for 90k.

I really hope you didn't report for this, it seems really petty and I don't think there's anything in the ToS about undercutting, you'd just be wasting GM time.

If someone drops the item to 40k, everyone drops the item to 40k and now the market is forever at 40k. It doesn't go back to 90k.

But if everyone matches you at 90k, it'll forever be at 90k as long as no one undercut massively.

It's absolutely griefing to undercut so much and falls under griefing behavior.

Lol, this again?

Undercutting is part of economics. Welcome to free market economy.

Why didn’t you just buy it and flip it?

And what, if anything, did the GM say regarding this?

GMs just said they will look into it but the retainer is still active. Guess they didn't do anything but next time they undercut by so much again I'll report again.

[Venari]

Well if someone posted an item for 10million and it is only worth 2million then I am going to undercut with 7.95millions...

It is not rude, and if your speculation has failed on whatever item, then that is just a part of the game also organized trade cartels and the likes where you are only permitted to do that even though you could sell more items quicker and faster, due to eg, having a much better Chain Supply Line or cutting out the middleman by doing parts of it yourself, just means you are more competetative.

am gonna undercut for 50K or more, if the item is not worth it.. if it is flooding the market, even more.

The items aren't worth anything though? If something is at 2M then people will buy it at 2M. If something is at 10M then people will buy it at 10M. The only thing that affects the price is whether the material price is lower than the final item price.

If you actually dropped something from 10 million to 2 million I feel sad for you because you lost out on 8 million for absolutely NO reason.

Just be patient and it will sell at 10 million. It's basic logic.

[miraidensetsu]

Just buy it and sell for 90k. That way that retainer earn their 40k, you earn 50k and everyone is happy.

[SweetestLily]

This by far is the most karen thread I’ve ever read. Hope the gm actually ends up taking action on you for such a petty report.

[Remolia]

I once leveled all my crafters during SB, and did a full meld, just so I can undercut other crafters on MB.

Its not about making money urself, its about to force other players to earn less money.

[kaynide]

GMs just said they will look into it but the retainer is still active. Guess they didn't do anything but next time they undercut by so much again I'll report again.

This is classic Customer Service speak for "I'm gonna say some words that make the customer go away but actually not follow up on it at all"