Thread: Endwalker is the lowest point of this game since 1.0

Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

Notice how nearly everyone who praises X expansion

It's not just EW. Most people literally only praise X expansion for the story like they're an IGN journalist.

Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

The newest Extreme is a lot of fun. I recommend trying it!

Once you learn it, don't join prog parties because they will always get stuck on some of the mechanics and it'll be draining. But it's only draining because this is a harder fight to learn than some of the other extremes. Once you've got it on farm, it's a lot of fun just to farm it.

It is both great and absolutely terrible.
It's great that it has some teeth to it and feels engaging, but every 2nd mechanic is simply an 8-man body check. This leads to your weakest link quickly becoming a brick wall to your progression because there is literally nothing you personally can do to compensate for them, that is already annoying in savage so I really don't need it in extreme as well.

What i feel with XIV is that the highs are SUPER HIGH but the lows as well are greatly noticable
Not long ago i did a SHB and EW new game+, doing now a HW one as well, but only gonna talk about those 2 because have them fresh
In SHB you have moments like Hades, Thancred "death", Elidibus WOL, Exarch sacrifice which are just 11/10 moments and leave your mouth with great taste but then I noticed moments like being distracted in fairy land, II megh mine section or to some extent Kholusia, tho that last goes more to personal i would say
EW was kinda worse and noticeable, Garlemald, Zodiark, Elpis on the great scheme and that final fight with Meteion and Zenos are just so good but then you have Moon phase and Laberynthos wich are just, too bad imo

As a note have to say the experience was way more light due to me having flying unlocked (Looking at you Labyrinthos)

Originally Posted by Mithron

HW was peak. I miss when this game was good. I have no drive to even do Extreme trials and Alliance raids any more, much less Savage. I did 99 of EW Ex trials 1, 2, 3 and 4, but 5 and 6 I'm just drained and can't even be bothered to learn them. I've never felt this before in any expansion.

This is when you step away from the game you are playing. The game is still phenomenal. You are burned out. Take a break for gods sake. WTH is wrong with people like you. TAKE A BREAK!

When it comes to EW story, at the time I was playing it I thought it was great. Now that I've had some time to stew on it and think about it, I've found it to be kind of meh. Lots of weird contrivances in the plot and the like.

The patch story has been pretty dull though.

For me I put Endwalker at like 3rd place so heavensward, shadowbringers, Endwalker, stormblood then ARR. I also treat Endwalker as it’s worse if you take the story on it’s own but it’s better combined with shadowbringers it’s sort of like how avengers endgame isn’t a good movie but it’s made better if you combine it with infinity war. In regards to the content types and gameplay I feel Endwalker has definitely gone for variety and that’s been refreshing it’s just as of yet lacks long term rewards for running said content. I feel of relic had a zone to explore or required more to do then just tomes people wouldn’t be as critical.

I also feel Endwalker has done so much foundational work (for better or worse with dungeon redesign or boss mechanic changes) then any other expansion on top of consistent QoL they have really honed in on the new player experience and for the most part it’s a lot of great changes. Just sadly with their finite resources and team size it can come across like endgame players got shafted for them reworking core elements for new players but for me personally il take that hit and won’t say much unless 7.0 follows the same trajectory.

I think it’s probably HW>ARR>=SHB>STB>EW
The tonal shift around level 61-63 is something the story just didn’t recover from. It’s also not fun just showing up and almost being guaranteed a clear. The stratification of content is not particularly healthy in my eyes.