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    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Valamist Hurlstone
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Im sure you realize no other succesful MMO sells you a skip for "their main selling point of the game"

    WoW doesnt sell you raid clears, GW2 doesnt sell you their collect-a-thon stuff, ESO doesnt sell story skips as far as im aware (its been a while)

    Square sells you story skips because to them only people populating the latest expansion matters.
    To be fair, SE does alot of stupid things, and the story skip goes up to SHB I think. There is no way to skip EW, so they want people to play the latest story at the very least. WoW does sell you the ability to get a class to the latest expansion too, not a raid clear sure but it gets you there faster. ESO does not sell story skips true, but its a bit different with them as you can jump into the latest expansion with any character at anytime so long as you buy it.
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Square sells you story skips because to them only people populating the latest expansion matters.
    Technically speaking, Square Enix sells you a Job Skip because they allow one character to assume every role in-game. These do not affect the story line.

    Blizzard sells Story skips in the guise of a level skip. And will be happy to do so for each of the alts you choose to run in the game.

    Both companies make money because players are impatient.

    If I had to guess (and we have no real numbers to back this up) Square Enix sells more ARR story skips than Endwalker story skips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Each patch costs $65 in subscription fees over its five-month duration. We get roughly two hours of story content per patch. While Endwalker's MSRP might be earned, its subscription cost is not, so the dismissal is fair. It would be better if this game did not have a subscription.
    Not gonna lie, have no idea what MSRP is?
    And sure you can look at it that way if you're caught up on everything else you want to do in the game. Everyone has different taste as well as different values for spendings.
    Any consumer would agree for spending less, that's just common sense. But I'm personally content as it is right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Not gonna lie, have no idea what MSRP is?
    Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price.
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Not gonna lie, have no idea what MSRP is?
    And sure you can look at it that way if you're caught up on everything else you want to do in the game. Everyone has different taste as well as different values for spendings.
    Any consumer would agree for spending less, that's just common sense. But I'm personally content as it is right now.
    MSRP = Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price.
    Cool. Thank you! Will I remember it though? We shall see
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    I say the lowest is still Stormblood for me. Whole EW arc still pretty good compared to SB

    (Still can't forgive how dirty they do to Ala Mhigo)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    I say the lowest is still Stormblood for me. Whole EW arc still pretty good compared to SB

    (Still can't forgive how dirty they do to Ala Mhigo)
    Hurray for another Stormblood vote! Honestly if there wasn’t such a hype train for Shadowbringers I never would have come back to this game after that lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    I say the lowest is still Stormblood for me. Whole EW arc still pretty good compared to SB

    (Still can't forgive how dirty they do to Ala Mhigo)
    Meanwhile the Garlean capitol is like 3 streets.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Endwalker is definitely a low point in the game for me.

    The story is good but hardly great. For every high point there is some considerable drag. It was always going to be hard topping Shadowbringers but I feel Endwalker is much closer to Stormblood... which is not exactly a complicate even if I do feel Stormblood's MSQ gets too much criticism. What really damns Endwalker is the severe lack of content longevity. Almost nothing lasts this expansion either due to paltry rewards or simply there being no actual reason to continue doing whatever releases beyond a few days/weeks. The two major selling points of this expansion were Island Sanctuary and Criterion which... haven't exactly gone over well for the precise reasons I just said. What's frustrating is they both have so much potential but we keep cycling back to the utter lack of longevity. Island Sanctuary becomes nothing more than a glorified retainer venture you visit ten minutes a day or once a week. There's literally nothing else you can do with it once you get the ball rolling.

    Say what you will about Eureka or Bozja. They may have been flawed but they gave you a reason to keep playing. The same cannot be said for almost anything Endwalker has offered.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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