[dev1035] Improvement of Targeting (discuss)

[ESAR]

Honestly I think if they just kept the current targeting modes that they have right now, but while in each rather then needing to select the first target it just auto-targeted the closest of that target type from their select by either changing point of view or selecting left or right. It would fix the problems with the current system.

Now there is also the problem of not being able to switch targets for a single attack while locked on. For this, I think they need to bring back some sort of sub-targeting system. They could bring this up by holding down an action on the bar.

[kukurumei]

Honestly I think if they just kept the current targeting modes that they have right now, but while in each rather then needing to select the first target it just auto-targeted the closest of that target type from their select by either changing point of view or selecting left or right. It would fix the problems with the current system.

Now there is also the problem of not being able to switch targets for a single attack while locked on. For this, I think they need to bring back some sort of sub-targeting system. They could bring this up by holding down an action on the bar.

Yes, in FF11 there was a manual sub targeting system for lock on. In FF4, you had to unlock and re target, which isn't bad, but isn't good.

And it also faintly falls into the fact FF14 doesn't have an auto-attack system. FF11 inherently knew that you had to "attack" something, but FF14, you don't you can use any skill without having aggressive action. The easy way would have been skill <stnpc>.

That's kinda unique. Without auto attack, to "initiate a battle", you have to depend on auto locks. Because right now we have target lock and target select. A very confusing state, without auto attacks.

It's a matter of semantics, but it's basically why they had a problem in the first place. The mixing of console and PC got a big crack in this case.

Basically the problem with FF14 is that you get "retarget"ed depending on what skills you do, and how you do it. Which happens a lot if you visit the "auto target next, after monster dies" problem.

[Mr_Gyactus]

I don't know... I prefer B-Mode, but it still incomplete.

what about something like:

In combat: left right: select monsters
Up down: select party members
I don't really need to lock a no-party member when I'm in combat.

out of combat: B mode.

Anyway, we need another button for subtargetting purpose. what about R1 for a fleeting unlock?