Duty Support for MSQ Trials when..?

[NekoMataMata]

I can already feel some random person deciding to drop a post along the lines of "no, you're trying to turn this game into a single player game" so I'd like to remind you that almost every MSQ dungeon in the game has duty support despite the fact that dungeons of all content don't necessarily need it, at least in comparison to trials.

Trial roulette is not nearly as rewarding as Leveling or even Level X0 roulette. Trials require double the amount of people and the reward for rerunning trials without roulette is non-existent, while in comparison you have people rerunning all sorts of MSQ dungeons for different reasons.

Give me a reason as to why trials shouldn't have been prioritized for receiving duty support over dungeons.

[Carin-Eri]

I, for one, can't give you a reason - I feel the Duty Support system is a good idea.

I mean - hate to say it - but are those who bemoan SE "trying to turn this game into a single player game" the same people who also criticise poor performance from other players in group content?

Some seem to want their cake and to eat it too, frankly.

[Final-Fantasy]

Hopefully in the future this will be added, I like running through the MSQ with Alt's.

[DPZ2]

I'm assuming they wanted to get the dungeons finished first, as they are the easiest to create.

There is a trial one can run with Duty Support at this point. It is called The Mothercrystal.

So, the technology exists, they've tested it out in a major MSQ story point in Endwalker, and I expect SE to start converting 8-person MSQ trials at some point starting in the next expansion.

Duty support for the 4-person ARR MSQ trials are already in-game.

[GaiusDrakon]

I can guarantee you SE can't code for their lives proper AI to handle Nabriales. And so DS means they'll gut it into braindead content. No thanks.

Also ty for making it even easier to level bots to endgame

[Jojoya]

I can already feel some random person deciding to drop a post along the lines of "no, you're trying to turn this game into a single player game" so I'd like to remind you that almost every MSQ dungeon in the game has duty support despite the fact that dungeons of all content don't necessarily need it, at least in comparison to trials.

Trial roulette is not nearly as rewarding as Leveling or even Level X0 roulette. Trials require double the amount of people and the reward for rerunning trials without roulette is non-existent, while in comparison you have people rerunning all sorts of MSQ dungeons for different reasons.

Give me a reason as to why trials shouldn't have been prioritized for receiving duty support over dungeons.

They already addressed this.

It's a lot more difficult to program coordinated effort for 7 NPC (with 1 player character) across a 7-8 minute fight than 3 NPCs for a 2-3 minute fight.

The 2nd trial in Endwalker was a test to see if it could be done. It revealed a lot of issues they have to address.

It's also going to limit how complex mechanics can get for the trials, making those fights feel less epic than they should.

As for roulette rewards, they're generally based on expected time commitment and not how many are in the roulette party.

[NekoMataMata]

I can guarantee you SE can't code for their lives proper AI to handle Nabriales. And so DS means they'll gut it into braindead content. No thanks.

Also ty for making it even easier to level bots to endgame

I doubt endgame bot farms care either way. The bots probably go through the trials with other bots already or have a higher leveled bot do the trial for them unsync'd.

It's a shame that you'd use that as an excuse in order to hinder real players.

[VelKallor]

4 player team is one thing, the squadrons more or less were the proving grounds for the current duty support. An 8 player raid is another matter entirely

So, the technology exists, they've tested it out in a major MSQ story point in Endwalker, and I expect SE to start converting 8-person MSQ trials at some point starting in the next expansion.

Id agree there, my guess is they want to get duty support in place across the board first.

[Mosha]

especially end game trials are ridiculously long.

I don't know but have you tried doing dps?

[Kaurhz]

I don't know but have you tried doing dps?

You would think that by reading the full sentence they were referring to the time taken to queue in, not the time taken to kill once in the instance...