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    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    I think macros should only ever result in NQs.
    I wish crafting actually required paying attention to get HQ, but I doubt they'll ever go there. The fear of losing casuals is probably gonna prevent that forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    I wish crafting actually required paying attention to get HQ, but I doubt they'll ever go there. The fear of losing casuals is probably gonna prevent that forever.
    They had that in Heavensward and people hated it.
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    I think macros should only ever result in NQs.
    What good would this achieve? I tweaked / wrote my OWN macros.

    They had that in Heavensward and people hated it.
    I remember crafting a helm that needed a separate HQ helmet as a component, the synthesis failed..I lost the helmet that had ALREADY been a pain in the michta to get...I lost my mats AND the helmet which REALLY honked me off.

    Any crafter back then hated HW crafting with a vengeance.
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    Yeah I don't see what's with the macro hate. Some of us write our own. May not be exactly the way the ones that others just copy do it but I can get the same result through my own work so I'm happy. Plus it isn't like macros weren't a thing back in HW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Yeah I don't see what's with the macro hate. Some of us write our own. May not be exactly the way the ones that others just copy do it but I can get the same result through my own work so I'm happy. Plus it isn't like macros weren't a thing back in HW.
    The only thing that bothers me is how limited macros are now, because they pruned all the interesting crafting skills, people could end up with vastly different macros for the same item until the rework.


    I haven't really looked at low level crafting but I imagine it's rather boring now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Yeah I don't see what's with the macro hate. Some of us write our own. May not be exactly the way the ones that others just copy do it but I can get the same result through my own work so I'm happy. Plus it isn't like macros weren't a thing back in HW.
    Talera, how long did yours take to perfect? I TRIED making a single step macro, finally had to split it into a two parter. Did you also notice that the cp usage between a 3 and 4 star was actually pretty small?

    Once I pentamelded, it was more what food to use for that extra control to HQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Talera, how long did yours take to perfect? I TRIED making a single step macro, finally had to split it into a two parter. Did you also notice that the cp usage between a 3 and 4 star was actually pretty small?

    Once I pentamelded, it was more what food to use for that extra control to HQ.
    A decent amount. Don't remember how much but thank the Twelve we have Trial Synthesis. I don't have a single step macro. It's a two parter and I'm fine with that. I didn't notice the exact CP usage but I did notice I didn't have to tweak my 3 star that much for most of it work for 4 star. I was also completely pentamelded already and had even melded more than I needed so I didn't have to change any melds.

    I like to copypasta my macros and reuse where I can and then see what specific pieces I need to adjust. But I'm a coder and 99% of our lives is that, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenwatch View Post
    And what benefit will this serve? An increased skill gap that rewards others who "make it their own way"? Nah, people would just read sequenced abilities off their other monitor and manually input them.

    Macros boil down to being purely QoL, and that's not the kind of thing you strip from a game you want to be successful.
    This. Macros in themselves aren't the issue. They're a QoL and you can easily just walk through the craft making one step by step. It's the fact the recipes can be macro'd at all instead of requiring more consistent interactivity. Maybe not for basic stuff but I would have liked to have seen that sort of system for Expert more than just waiting on RNG.
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 06-14-2023 at 06:15 AM.

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    . I didn't notice the exact CP usage but I did notice I didn't have to tweak my 3 star that much for most of it work for 4 star.
    Same. THAT came as a huge surprise, I was more relieved than anything. Prudent Touch seems more effective than it used to be.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 06-16-2023 at 11:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Same. THAT came as a huge surprise, I was more relieved than anything. Prudent Touch seems more effective than it used to be.
    Yep, that and Preparatory and you can put together a decent set of macros that can HQ everything without much trouble.
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    I don't see why remote desktop is bad, if we are talking about what I think we are talking about.

    Imagine if you remote into your PC from another device - login and quick synth 99 integral lumber. Then come back in 10 minutes and do it again. Not sure how that is wrong. I can't see how remote desktop and hitting a two button macro to craft is any different. Of course, the moment it is automated to repeat, that is against the ToS. I don't think there is anything in the ToS about remote desktop.
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