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    Riot Trooper
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    Paldin ability Guardian: kill through the ability?

    Rush to a target party member's side.
    Additional Effect: Take all damage intended for the targeted party member
    Duration: 10s


    There are a lot of times I get to guard people upto 40%! only for them to get downed in no time (what seems like through the guard). Pretty sad that considering it's a job defining ability (don't understand paladins who wants to get rid of this) with 30 sec cd.

    The question is: Is it server tick thing most of the time? Or are there many cheesy abilities which can kill through the guard? Something like ninja, can he, he always can, can't he?
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    Xylira Mierqid
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    It's a server tick/lag issue, the same with most other abilities feeling like they don't take effect quickly enough.
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    Player RyanCousland's Avatar
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    Rion Cousland
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    I'd be for keeping it (as you said it's a defining ability) if it had enough DR/sustainability without guard but unfortunately it doesn't, as for the issue you encountered it could have been a server issue but also bear in mind cover doesn't prevent DOTs so depending on who your target was hit with they may very well have died due to 3k-9k per sec in a 5s elixir cast time
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    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    It's funny because DRK don't have that problem (I know, 1 HP) but PLD can get killed immediately after using LB, about same thing with DRG get killed mid air...
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    Either that or they slipped out of range.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boys View Post
    Rush to a target party member's side.
    Additional Effect: Take all damage intended for the targeted party member
    Duration: 10s


    There are a lot of times I get to guard people upto 40%! only for them to get downed in no time (what seems like through the guard). Pretty sad that considering it's a job defining ability (don't understand paladins who wants to get rid of this) with 30 sec cd.

    The question is: Is it server tick thing most of the time? Or are there many cheesy abilities which can kill through the guard? Something like ninja, can he, he always can, can't he?
    It's not lag nor ticks, it's damage snapshotting when people press the button, as simple as it is. And since damage resolution happens with certain hardcoded animation delays that can extend to several seconds for some LBs, then even if you guard, or in the case of PLD, Guardian somebody, they might still die from previous stuff that still has to resolve but has snapshot earlier.

    On top of it Guardian also has a small deployment delay...
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    Khloe Stardew
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    It's funny because DRK don't have that problem (I know, 1 HP) but PLD can get killed immediately after using LB, about same thing with DRG get killed mid air...
    i wonder if it follows the same animation sequence as hallowed ground, you have to have a lest 1 mob hit and and a half left for it to go into effect if that makes sense
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    Last edited by MsMisato; 06-11-2023 at 09:05 PM.