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    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Valamist Hurlstone
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    Emet-Selch is perhaps my favorite character in the game, but it is time for him to rest. Unless we delve more into the Ancients, I do not really see why he should come back. Its great when these character we love come back, but its always better when they do so to serve the story, not the other way around.
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    Ellisar Loravalur
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    Na....they probably won't come back anytime soon and if they do, will be just subtle references...perhaps a child with weird talents like they did with ShB ending and Ardbert.
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    Na....they probably won't come back anytime soon and if they do, will be just subtle references...perhaps a child with weird talents like they did with ShB ending and Ardbert.
    Except that child wasn't Ardbert as they have already stated in the 5.2 patch (you know the cutscene when Elidibert showed up and our character literally says thats not the real ardbert and Urianger as well as that moole dog confirm that our soul is still as dense as it was when he merged with us at the end of 5.0 and confirmed by dog mole in 5.1 compared to the other scions soul densities) that Ardbert's soul completely merged with ours and the child was born while ardbert was still roaming the world as a spirit.

    On the subject of Emet .. nah let the man sleep...
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    Last edited by Rannie; 06-10-2023 at 10:30 AM.

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    Raranpa Rehw-setlas
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    Let the guy have his peace. Thanks to that memory lock device he's gonna have to deal with recurring memories of the unsundered world forever more but at least he can forget all the thousands of years since.
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    "If the world rewards violence, are we forever doomed to be ruled by the brutal and cruel?"
    "The tools of liberation are the same as the tools of oppression, and so even those that seek to break the wheel perpetuate it's turning"
    ~Mathangi Ten Meti, Kill 6 Billion Demons

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    Malcolm Varanidae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    That's an interesting thing. Emet and Hythlodaeus should both logically have memories of Elpis permanently burned into their souls. Similar to how Hermes had dreams of Elpis as Amon, but possibly worse since they weren't sundered like he was and wouldn't have already reincarnated a bunch of times.
    Strong memories get burned into your soul. The events of Elpis shattered Hermes's view of the world. I doubt it had that effect on the other two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    No, iirc Hermes (Amon) post-defeat in the Aitiascope in the cutscene before Asahi drags him into superhell said Kairos was what caused that to happen to him. It imprints the memories on your soul in the process of wiping them.

    Cutscene #1, "Her Children, One and All":





    He used the same process to remove Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus' memories.
    Yes, the act of trying to get rid of those already strong memories, only succeeded in burning them more deeply into him. He says it right there in your screen shot. Strong memories stick with the soul. Hermes trying to erase those strong memories just made them stick more is what I was saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    That's an interesting thing. Emet and Hythlodaeus should both logically have memories of Elpis permanently burned into their souls. Similar to how Hermes had dreams of Elpis as Amon, but possibly worse since they weren't sundered like he was and wouldn't have already reincarnated a bunch of times.
    and don't forget that Hermes' fragments are all flitting around in their reflections, including, presumably, the first. Assuming of course he didn't get hit by the wave of light and turned into a sin eater obviously.

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    Strong memories get burned into your soul. The events of Elpis shattered Hermes's view of the world. I doubt it had that effect on the other two.
    Nah, they're going to have the memories from those few days scorched into them, they won't be as world shatteringly BAD for their ability to cope with reality but they're gonna have an impact.
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    Last edited by shadowclasper; 06-11-2023 at 07:08 AM.
    "If the world rewards violence, are we forever doomed to be ruled by the brutal and cruel?"
    "The tools of liberation are the same as the tools of oppression, and so even those that seek to break the wheel perpetuate it's turning"
    ~Mathangi Ten Meti, Kill 6 Billion Demons

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    Ein Dose
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    Bring back Emet-Selch? What, a fourth time?

    Don't pay the same song that many times, the people who like it get bored and the people who don't like are REALLY not getting won over after a point.
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