Just get rid of ranked

[Towa-Musa]

This x1000. I think a lot of the frustration people have with ranked is because; 1. They don't understand who this content is made for and 2. They don't realize how much of a time investment it takes to actually see some decent results.

People clear ultimate raids in 200-300 pulls/attempts. For arguments sake lets say every attempt is nearly a full clear (15 minute long fight) That would be about 75 hours (4,500 mins) of playtime before finally getting a clear. If you took that same amount of time (4,500 min) and divide that by 5 minute CC matches, you'd only be at 900 games played, and assuming you manage to keep a 50% winrate, you'd only have about 450 wins which is barely even scratching the surface of starting to understand how to even play the game mode, let alone making top 100 or even getting any of the 1000 win achieves.

Now for a casual player, you've really gotta take a step back and be honest with yourself about what you're getting yourself into here. It is monumental, and very clearly designed for people who already enjoy doing this. For the people who do enjoy these extreme types of content, its amazing and literally the only thing they have. Don't force yourself to do content you clearly do not enjoy, and then call for it to be deleted for the people it is made/designed for imo.

Again you cannot compare Ranked CC to Ultimate raids because the only REAL difficulty that comes from ranked is your teammates and the netcode.

[Sinstrel]

Again you cannot compare Ranked CC to Ultimate raids because the only REAL difficulty that comes from ranked is your teammates and the netcode.

Huh? I mean difficulty is very subjective. Someone who clears Ultimates would probably say they are easy just like I would say getting to top 100 is easy. Also, I never mentioned anything about the difficulty of each of the content, I am speaking solely about the time investment required to "clear" each of these pieces of content and the playerbase they are designed for.

In another lens, would it make sense for a casual PvE player who mostly does Island Sanctuary, chocobo racing, and has great difficulty completing daily roulettes to say "all ultimates should be deleted because the only difficulty is getting random people in party finder/discord and installing illegal cheating add-ons?"

[Mistress_Irika]

Huh? I mean difficulty is very subjective. Someone who clears Ultimates would probably say they are easy just like I would say getting to top 100 is easy. Also, I never mentioned anything about the difficulty of each of the content, I am speaking solely about the time investment required to "clear" each of these pieces of content and the playerbase they are designed for.

In another lens, would it make sense for a casual PvE player who mostly does Island Sanctuary, chocobo racing, and has great difficulty completing daily roulettes to say "all ultimates should be deleted because the only difficulty is getting random people in party finder/discord and installing illegal cheating add-ons?"

The only thing that is similar between the two is the guides that focuses on maximizing your DPS.

Other than that they're 2 different things. PvP is getting the necessary restrictions in order for things to go fully solo (for some odd reason), while you're actually required to create a premade party if you want to do current ultimate/extreme/savage since completing them using duty finder is nonexistent.

[Towa-Musa]

Huh? I mean difficulty is very subjective. Someone who clears Ultimates would probably say they are easy just like I would say getting to top 100 is easy. Also, I never mentioned anything about the difficulty of each of the content, I am speaking solely about the time investment required to "clear" each of these pieces of content and the playerbase they are designed for.

In another lens, would it make sense for a casual PvE player who mostly does Island Sanctuary, chocobo racing, and has great difficulty completing daily roulettes to say "all ultimates should be deleted because the only difficulty is getting random people in party finder/discord and installing illegal cheating add-ons?"

It still does not change my point, not to mention i doubt they're gonna make anymore ultimates BECAUSE of the cheating scandal lol
i will again explain my point to you in a way you can understand

Yes they should just get rid of ranked because it literally has nothing to offer that casual mode does not already have
No you cannot compare Ultimate raids to ranked because:
1. its pve and you fight against a massive damage sponge and theres no fomo
2. ultimate raids respect your time investment, ranked does not.

[Valence]

2. ultimate raids respect your time investment, ranked does not.

What the heck? Ultimates respecting my time? This has to be one of the types of content in game that is literally constructed around artificial difficulty based on 20min long bosses where you literally have to replay 10-15min of the fight every time you want to prog further in the latest phases...

And that's supposed to be respecting my time?

[Towa-Musa]

What the heck? Ultimates respecting my time? This has to be one of the types of content in game that is literally constructed around artificial difficulty based on 20min long bosses where you literally have to replay 10-15min of the fight every time you want to prog further in the latest phases...

And that's supposed to be respecting my time?

Okay let me ask you this question and answer honestly;
which one respects your time more?

1. ff14 ranked pvp
2. Ultimate raids

I can guarantee you that The raids respect your time more then the ranked does since you ACTUALLY PROGRESS

[Astralrisk]

Okay let me ask you this question and answer honestly;
which one respects your time more?

1. ff14 ranked pvp
2. Ultimate raids

I can guarantee you that The raids respect your time more then the ranked does since you ACTUALLY PROGRESS

Considering both DSR and TOP exist, i'd say neither ranked or ultimate raids respect your time.

[Towa-Musa]

Considering both DSR and TOP exist, i'd say neither ranked or ultimate raids respect your time.

Okay ill take that as Raids respect your time more since you don't wanna tell me which one sucks less.

[Towa-Musa]

What the heck? Ultimates respecting my time? This has to be one of the types of content in game that is literally constructed around artificial difficulty based on 20min long bosses where you literally have to replay 10-15min of the fight every time you want to prog further in the latest phases...

And that's supposed to be respecting my time?

Unless you are VERY lucky you will make more progress in a Ultimate raid then you will ranked in a day, not to mention you will probably feel better about completing a ultimate raid then you will hitting crystal.

[Valence]

Okay let me ask you this question and answer honestly;
which one respects your time more?

1. ff14 ranked pvp
2. Ultimate raids

I can guarantee you that The raids respect your time more then the ranked does since you ACTUALLY PROGRESS

The answer for me is ranked pvp, even though it's not respecting my time for a lot of reasons as well, mainly seasons releasing at the same time as savage/ultimates, and just shit days where you drop back to the bottom of plat because whatever (but ultimates also have those, and enough of them and your static will start having drama, get toxic and/or explode).

Unless you are VERY lucky you will make more progress in a Ultimate raid then you will ranked in a day, not to mention you will probably feel better about completing a ultimate raid then you will hitting crystal.

If you mean better as in feeling relieved to be delivered of that hell, then sure.