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    Quote Originally Posted by Dionysius View Post
    You're assuming people don't do Ranked for Trophy Crystals or Series level, I say it's the opposite. If they put more stuff to buy with Trophy Crystals, more people will play Ranked thus "incentivizing" it in a more effective way than making exclusive stuff to attract elitist and smug people into it.
    If you truly think that a tiny extra surplus of Trophy Crystals at the end of a season and the fundamentally equal Battle Pass EXP is what drives Ranked participation in the first place then you are out of your goddamn mind.

    Yes you can get Series EXP and Trophy Crystals just as well from Ranked as you can from Casual, but that is not justification, that is an issue. If you see a benefit from having more competent games, great! But other than that Series EXP and Trophy Crystals are no more reason to do Ranked than to do Casual. If they improve Trophy Crystal vendor, it will drive more engagement in PvP in general with Ranked only receiving a scrap share of this, due to path of least resistence being Casual.

    This isn't me assuming shit, this is me comparing both modes and their rewards, restrictions and benefits.

    Also lowkey annoyed of the bullshit narrative that exclusive stuff purely attracts elitists as you call them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Also lowkey annoyed of the bullshit narrative that exclusive stuff purely attracts elitists as you call them.
    that's just how people see it when they see square keep handing you things
    people are quite tired of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    that's just how people see it when they see square keep handing you things
    people are quite tired of it.
    Pretty sure SE has given casuals more things to access over the last four major patches than Ranked has ever gotten. Not saying it as a reason you deserve to get less since adding more casual rewards to the game (more pvp vendor items/better series rewards) is just plain better for everyone both groups. However, a reward for people who manage to get into diamond/crystal/top 100 is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astralrisk View Post
    Pretty sure SE has given casuals more things to access over the last four major patches than Ranked has ever gotten. Not saying it as a reason you deserve to get less since adding more casual rewards to the game (more pvp vendor items/better series rewards) is just plain better for everyone both groups. However, a reward for people who manage to get into diamond/crystal/top 100 is fine.
    You clearly were not around for the 18 seasons of feast before the overhaul.
    see that armor Rein is wearing? Thats only one of the sets you could get from ranked at the time and casuals got nothing
    now that casuals are getting almost everything we asked for ranked players are mad and want their exclusives back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    You clearly were not around for the 18 seasons of feast before the overhaul.
    see that armor Rein is wearing? Thats only one of the sets you could get from ranked at the time and casuals got nothing
    now that casuals are getting almost everything we asked for ranked players are mad and want their exclusives back.
    I feel like I should post this page on the other thread for my post so I can highlight that Astralrisk is actually right, there is more for wolfmark/casual.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...h-stress/page4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    I feel like I should post this page on the other thread for my post so I can highlight that Astralrisk is actually right, there is more for wolfmark/casual.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...h-stress/page4
    after how many expacs lmfao bro get out of here, you're just talking nonsense.

    casuals got like one set per expac and ranked got like 2 or 3 HIGH QUALITY sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    after how many expacs lmfao bro get out of here, you're just talking nonsense.

    casuals got like one set per expac and ranked got like 2 or 3 HIGH QUALITY sets.
    2-3 series in ARR, 2 in HW, 1 in Stormblood, 2 in Shadowbringers, not counting Garo. Each series containing unique variants of armour and potentially even weapons. VS 6-11 armours from Ranked, depending whether you count recolours.

    Sure we can talk about set quality, those may differ a fair bit, but they did improve over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    You clearly were not around for the 18 seasons of feast before the overhaul.
    see that armor Rein is wearing? Thats only one of the sets you could get from ranked at the time and casuals got nothing
    now that casuals are getting almost everything we asked for ranked players are mad and want their exclusives back.
    I am aware of what it was like before the 6.1 rework. However, if we look at the way they are handling it now there has been far more rewards added, and they have added some old ranked feast rewards into that pool. Again, I think having more rewards for the casual majority is welcomed since it benefits everyone. Yet having at least one incentive for people to go into ranked outside of the prestigious value is not bad either. Every form of hard content in this game has that incentive, don't know why it shouldn't apply to ranked pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astralrisk View Post
    I am aware of what it was like before the 6.1 rework. However, if we look at the way they are handling it now there has been far more rewards added, and they have added some old ranked feast rewards into that pool. Again, I think having more rewards for the casual majority is welcomed since it benefits everyone. Yet having at least one incentive for people to go into ranked outside of the prestigious value is not bad either. Every form of hard content in this game has that incentive, don't know why it shouldn't apply to ranked pvp.
    Because yall already got everything and you want everything again, greedy mfs.
    EVERYBODY should be able to get things now, not just ranked. we barely just got like 4 outfits that look pretty alright and yall get your glow weapons from now on.
    Unless they make it to where yall just get glow variants and we get the non glow stuff. im firmly against ranked getting armor coffers.

    i want square to be VERY even handed but also increase what we get off of the series pass and crystal shop
    but ranked can wait for a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    Because yall already got everything and you want everything again, greedy mfs.
    EVERYBODY should be able to get things now, not just ranked. we barely just got like 4 outfits that look pretty alright and yall get your glow weapons from now on.
    Unless they make it to where yall just get glow variants and we get the non glow stuff. im firmly against ranked getting armor coffers.

    i want square to be VERY even handed but also increase what we get off of the series pass and crystal shop
    but ranked can wait for a bit.
    Not to speak for every high end ranked player ever, but I don't think anyone remotely thinks that ranked should get all the attention/rewards when the majority doesn't interact with that content at all. And I don't think any ranked player is against easy accessible rewards, saying they do is a bit ignorant and rude tbh. The only thing that ranked players have been asking for is one reward to try and work towards, and I highly doubt us getting the glows is the reason why there haven't been new crystal trophy items.
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