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    Is Y'shtola finally giving actual red death flags or am I just seeing stuff?

    Ok hear me out first. Yes, I know that she is the face of the franchise and that she is the queen of fake out deaths. But I feel more so with this patch than others that she could be throwing actual death flags this time.

    My first point is she's finally getting character development. The 2nd one and probably the weakest is well she's female character that's finally getting character development.

    One thing I noticed her do a lot in this patch is the hand to heart emote. Which sure the devs could just be showing it off cause we finally are able to use it once you get to level 5 in the current pvp season. You could also argue that she could just be doing that as a sign of excitement at the aspect of figuring out no death involved shard travel. Yet why does she look forlorn if not remorseful whenever she does it?

    She also seems to become easily weakened. We see her slightly winded after completing the warding spell. Now we don't see if Urianger was winded or not. Yet since coming back from the first he also hasn't shown any signs of being in need of some recovery. This isn't the only time post 6.0 that we have seen Y'shtola needing some form of recovery. She was also a little winded after she gave Zero some of her aether. I don't remember if there was a person between Y'shtola and Varshahn's offer of aether that got interrupted or not. Yet during our 1st trip into the 13th and post aether giving she does make a comment about how low she is before we come to the decision of bringing an unconscious Zero with us.

    Now I also know that part of the reason why she and Urianger didn't help with putting up the wards to the Crystal Tower was to show that they were given outfits and weapons that were exactly like the ones they wore while on the first. Yet we have Krile who wanders over looking and sounding she could fall asleep from exhaustion at any second from helping with said seals. Course we don't know how long that took or if she helped out with it after a round of healing magics before hand. But if what Alisaie says at the start of that cutscene is to be believed they all should have felt as fit as a fiddle. Or strong enough to participate in the lv 47 fate that had just spawned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Ok hear me out first. Yes, I know that she is the face of the franchise and that she is the queen of fake out deaths. But I feel more so with this patch than others that she could be throwing actual death flags this time.
    Is she the face of the franchise anymore? I don't remember her making it on to the favourite final fantasy characters lists (I might be misremembering), and if she was I am pretty sure Emet and Tia where much higher on the list so I think the idea of her being the face of the franchise is dated at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Is she the face of the franchise anymore? I don't remember her making it on to the favourite final fantasy characters lists (I might be misremembering), and if she was I am pretty sure Emet and Tia where much higher on the list so I think the idea of her being the face of the franchise is dated at this point
    She's used in a lot of the official art. Coming into 6.0 she got a picture of her strumming a guitar with a blue bird. Any time a XIV character is put into something like Desidia or one of the mobile games she normally is the only one or part of the group that gets to represent the game. Heck she even has a posable doll made after her. She might have fallen as a fan favorite, but she is still in a lot of the official marketing for the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    She's used in a lot of the official art. Coming into 6.0 she got a picture of her strumming a guitar with a blue bird. Any time a XIV character is put into something like Desidia or one of the mobile games she normally is the only one or part of the group that gets to represent the game. Heck she even has a posable doll made after her. She might have fallen as a fan favorite, but she is still in a lot of the official marketing for the game.
    Oh she's certainly not irrelevant but she not really the main character of the game anymore (not sure who is now though to be honest), and given we've moved on from the who was apparently the main villain going by Dissidea I don't think Y'sthola is in a place were she matters as the face of the game.
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    I don't think they'll kill her off to be honest.

    What I suspect might happen is that she'll find a method of travelling to the First and will opt to stay there, and take up residence in her former home with the Night's Blessed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I don't think they'll kill her off to be honest.

    What I suspect might happen is that she'll find a method of travelling to the First and will opt to stay there, and take up residence in her former home with the Night's Blessed.
    I agree that this is a more likely scenario. She made a promise to Runar, and it would be unfair to not let her keep it just to kill her off.

    But having her live on the First and continue solving mysteries there? Especially since we're going to be trying to figure out a way to pump light from the First over to the Thirteenth to eventually fix it? Now that makes sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    I agree that this is a more likely scenario. She made a promise to Runar, and it would be unfair to not let her keep it just to kill her off
    Sometimes life isn't fair.
    And sometimes a sad ending is a lot more impactful to a story than a happy one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Sometimes life isn't fair.
    And sometimes a sad ending is a lot more impactful to a story than a happy one.
    I'd say we're better off with her on the First. Since this allows us REASONS to go back to the First in story from time to time, instead of us forgetting it exists outside of some side quest or side series requiring us to go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I don't think they'll kill her off to be honest.

    What I suspect might happen is that she'll find a method of travelling to the First and will opt to stay there, and take up residence in her former home with the Night's Blessed.
    I agree. I think she'll be in retirement until we need to travel to another shard. And even then, she might just be regulated to cameo and not be on the main team anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    I agree. I think she'll be in retirement until we need to travel to another shard. And even then, she might just be regulated to cameo and not be on the main team anymore.
    This is what I do want to happen with her. It's just with her behavior this patch to me at least she started to behave like those characters that promise to go do all those fun things with their comrades after the current really bad situation is over with. Only that they know it's promises they can't keep as they know they're going to die or be dead by the end of it or they're end up disappearing at the end. Kind of like the end of FF X if Tidas actually ended up disappearing at the end or how at the end of Sailor Moon R everyone thought Chibi-Usa wasn't going to be seen again by the present day Sailor Senshi.
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