Fix the bug that actually matters?

[Shinkuno]

Am I the only one who feels like this is another issue in the line of they test under perfect conditions and are never accounting for latency or heavy traffic?

Kinda tinfoil-y here but i have my serious doubts they clear fights internally LEGITMATELY. No way their playtesters are better than world first racers with [redacted]s and then dont even encounter bugs like buffs not applying cause of buff/debuff limits. Chances are they test it like every mmo devs tests: increase the character stats to compensate for lack of skill / time saving measure. I dont buy it that fights keep having bugs that happen under normal circumstances and they never catch a single one in playtest IF they playtested legitimately.

[Mosha]

Thank you, guess previous link was wrong and edited

This is why SE needs to release updates in all supported languages at the same time but small indie dev.

added hill: "This live letter will be in Japanese language only" You are making a worldwide MMO at least put the effort into supporting your outside Japan audience.

[CStrife912]

This is why SE needs to release updates in all supported languages at the same time but small indie dev.

added hill: "This live letter will be in Japanese language only" You are making a worldwide MMO at least put the effort into supporting your outside Japan audience.

I mean the slides have english on them and that's the core of whats needed to know, half the time there is very little said when they talk between them and its not hard to use the discord for unofficial translation. Whenever they've done dual language it really drags on the pacing so i don't mind if they stick to Japanese only. No different to the upcoming blue protocol they are doing live letters too and they have commented on that they will just have english notes later on.

[Mosha]

I mean the slides have english on them and that's the core of whats needed to know, half the time there is very little said when they talk between them and its not hard to use the discord for unofficial translation. Whenever they've done dual language it really drags on the pacing so i don't mind if they stick to Japanese only. No different to the upcoming blue protocol they are doing live letters too and they have commented on that they will just have english notes later on.

Or just let Koji do an English stream at the same time. As Talera said "It gives the side that hears about it later the impression that they don't matter as much."

[Zsavooz]

FF16 and forspoken.

but that's not what I/m paying for. We're the customers and they treat us like they're doing us a favor letting us play.

[Avatre]

but that's not what I/m paying for. We're the customers and they treat us like they're doing us a favor letting us play.

We're paying the company, and unfortunately, they decide where to put the money they get from us. Ideally, they would turn around and put 90% back into the game the money comes from.

[Semirhage]

It works for JP so it must not be an issue! /s

I’m constantly reminded of Yoshi P having the audacity to say “we tested mch on high ping (110ms) and could not recreate the issues”

In that regard, the developers are wildly out of touch.

They've always had issues with this. They think 100ms is "high latency" because Japan is basically a giant LAN, so they never get lag to their own servers. Accounting for netcode issues and latency is something that occurs to them last, if at all. It's why Twintania was impossible on release, why Titan EX was such a crucible for so long, why our oGCDs are still sticky. Latency is always a problem in MMOs, but Square makes some real rookie mistakes with their netcode because Japan doesn't notice packets dropping when they live 100 feet from the servers.

[ICountFrom0]

Very disappointing there was a hotfix and they fix a bug noone cares about but leave in the caloric bug that causes numerous wipes for people. And they dont even mention it as a known issue.

Edit they have posted that it is a known issue now. Fix ETA Thursday.

"nobody cares about" sure... why would people complain about a bug they were using to cheat and beat things easier?

It was needful that it be prevented.

[ForteNightshade]

I had to search it. It seems to be a bug that applies a debuff incorrectly twice, which results in an instant wipe in P12S. Here's a video of the interaction. I can't quite explain what's happening, and I don't play Savage myself, but this is the basics of it. Hopefully someone else can post a better description of what's happening.

As best I understand it, the bug occurs primarily due to how close players with the Flare stack debuffs are when the mechanic begins. Although, as that clip shows, it can still happen. Regardless, it's an overflow error. Instead of cleansing the debuff when completing the mechanic, it's resetting the counter.

I do like how they say, "which makes the next mechanic difficult to clear." The next mechanic is borderline impossible without intentionally eating an Exflare dodge which will kill any non-tank without some hefty shielding. And if you do live, you're getting a 30% (or higher) damage down for 30 seconds.

I dont see what the huge fuss here is. Bugs happen. All the time. They happen, they get reported, they get fixed. As if this is something new or unheard of.

This is the premiere content and there's a borderline game-breaking bug that makes it near impossible to complete the subsequent mechanic. There absolutely should be a "huge fuss" as it should be top priority.

Imagine when FFXVI releases and one of the bosses can just randomly kill you due to a bug, making it near impossible to progress further in the game. Are you really going to defend that as "no need to make a huge fuss?" I get the whole "people are too negative" but now you're so far in the opposite extreme. It's okay to criticise the multi-billion dollar company. Their feelings won't be hurt.

[Taliriah]

It's okay to criticise the multi-billion dollar company. Their feelings won't be hurt.

True but behind the multi billion dollar company there are normal people doing their jobs (the devs) and I hope that none of them is literally losing sleep over a trivial bug that does nothing more than making a few video game players mad. "oh no I wiped!!!" well at least maybe you'll be clean for once.