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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Yes. Never claimed otherwise. You DO test however if your multi-server setup of a massive project spanning literal continents has servers that can actually communicate with each other

    #worksOnMyMachine
    Not, however, on the live systems. You have development and QA environments and the configuration on any of those could be out of sync with production or doesn't experience the same conditions that the production environment would. So then the bug only manifests when the live environment is working with the new code.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    How exactly is the server that isn't doing the rolling supposed to do a reroll? The lottery server was doing the rolling. It had a valid result. That valid result was not being passed to the instance server due to a bug and in the absence of a result the code was displaying 0 for the end user.
    So they didnt do exception handling, thanks for confirming
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    It's clear people don't care about the why this is happening. They just want to complain for the sake of complaining since we all know devs don't look at the forums.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    It's clear people don't care about the why this is happening. They just want to complain for the sake of complaining since we all know devs don't look at the forums.
    Its kinda obvious at this point as the people who argue for the bug are non-raiders anyway. I would've just said "please fix this asap" and then see that they've addressed it for its fix this week and leave it at that, but people enjoy hearing the sound of their own farts and want to pass it around so that everyone can deal with it.
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    It's clear people don't care about the why this is happening. They just want to complain for the sake of complaining since we all know devs don't look at the forums.
    I did but i keep getting conflicting statements. People claim the reason for bug X is Y. When i or someone else mentions something like "that should have been caught in testing", a post like yours follows and then a movement of the goalpost where apperently the reason for X was actually Z all the time. I thought people knew stuff from like dev infos but it seems they make stuff up. Probably reasoning until everything ends in "something something spaghetti code; nothing they could do"
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    I did but i keep getting conflicting statements. People claim the reason for bug X is Y. When i or someone else mentions something like "that should have been caught in testing", a post like yours follows and then a movement of the goalpost where apperently the reason for X was actually Z all the time. I thought people knew stuff from like dev infos but it seems they make stuff up. Probably reasoning until everything ends in "something something spaghetti code; nothing they could do"
    Honestly I think the best possible explanation was from daeriion on page 16.
    But your prob right, people make stuff up a lot. Sometimes intentional, sometimes not.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Honestly I think the best possible explanation was from daeriion on page 16.
    But your prob right, people make stuff up a lot. Sometimes intentional, sometimes not.
    Liked and agreed.

    Let's hope they can fix the bug for the next hotfix.
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  8. #158
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    Pretty much anyone who is defending these bugs either has hidden grey logs
    How can you tell what they are if they are hidden? Besides, this just shows you dont know how FFLogs works.

    Silly rabbit.

    Incidentally, what are you doing poking into peoples logs anyway? What business is it of yours? Or are you now descending into armoury trolling as well?. And, as a small notation, this is proof yet again of why and how dps numbers can be abused.

    You are doing a good job of making my own points for me.

    Thank you
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 06-08-2023 at 03:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    How can you tell what they are if they are hidden? Besides, this just shows you dont know how FFLogs works.

    Silly rabbit.

    Incidentally, what are you doing poking into peoples logs anyway? What business is it of yours? Or are you now descending into armoury trolling as well?. And, as a small notation, this is proof yet again of why and how dps numbers can be abused.

    You are doing a good job of making my own points for me.

    Thank you
    They did actually specify either - Which would imply that the logs are hidden or that they are grey logs.

    It's a valid point to an extent - In that, if you have never touched the fight or cleared the fight, or ones of a similar nature then it's difficult to actually speak first hand about the topic itself, and the implication that the bug, or a bug has - This would stand true for any game or any piece of content within a game. Still though, regardless of this it is pretty weird if the first inclination is to look up peoples' logs in the first place.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 06-08-2023 at 05:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    How can you tell what they are if they are hidden?
    Because nothing comes up when you search for your name?
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