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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
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    No one disputes that bugs have always existed. The point here is that QA is slipping. Ungarmax was barely used by anyone, was treated as a meme and was basically irrelevant other than for a few dumbasses who tried to do UCoB with it. The UCoB packet bug, while unfortunate, did not impact that many people compared to the impact of TOP, Abyssos, and Caloric. For many raiders, EW is the first time they\\'re actually running into these bugs themselves since A6S, and not just hearing about them. And I see that you didn't mention any bugs from ShB, because there honestly were only a few. The encounter variability bug causing quick enrages in w1 E4S was one of the worst offenders in ShB but that seriously pales in comparison to what we have now in Endwalker. That was also the only major bug I remember from ShB. ARR and HW were buggy messes, but SB and ShB had pretty good QA. Now EW has regressed, severely, in that regard.

    Blaming increasing complexity and JP work culture is fine but that's literally pointless to the end consumer. I'm sorry but no one is interested in an explanation of why they suck at QA now (beyond a curiosity as to how these firms operate). If a burger joint makes burgers that give you diarrhea, and they start to blame that their food quality assurance systems are not updated, no one gives a shit. You'll still be investigated by the FDA. In no other industry does ineptness excuse bad QA. For some reason for video games people like you try to "empathize" with the company. For what? We are the consumers here. We are not McKinsey consultants hired to understand why their management structure needs a revamp. In what other industry is the consumer supposed to excuse poor products because their organization hasn't kept up with modern business practices? You are just rationalizing away poor behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRedfield2 View Post
    No one disputes that bugs have always existed. The point here is that QA is slipping. Ungarmax was barely used by anyone, was treated as a meme and was basically irrelevant other than for a few dumbasses who tried to do UCoB with it. The UCoB packet bug, while unfortunate, did not impact that many people compared to the impact of TOP, Abyssos, and Caloric. For many raiders, EW is the first time they\\'re actually running into these bugs themselves since A6S, and not just hearing about them. And I see that you didn't mention any bugs from ShB, because there honestly were only a few. The encounter variability bug causing quick enrages in w1 E4S was one of the worst offenders in ShB but that seriously pales in comparison to what we have now in Endwalker. That was also the only major bug I remember from ShB. ARR and HW were buggy messes, but SB and ShB had pretty good QA. Now EW has regressed, severely, in that regard.

    Blaming increasing complexity and JP work culture is fine but that's literally pointless to the end consumer. I'm sorry but no one is interested in an explanation of why they suck at QA now (beyond a curiosity as to how these firms operate). If a burger joint makes burgers that give you diarrhea, and they start to blame that their food quality assurance systems are not updated, no one gives a shit. You'll still be investigated by the FDA. In no other industry does ineptness excuse bad QA. For some reason for video games people like you try to "empathize" with the company. For what? We are the consumers here. We are not McKinsey consultants hired to understand why their management structure needs a revamp. In what other industry is the consumer supposed to excuse poor products because their organization hasn't kept up with modern business practices? You are just rationalizing away poor behavior.
    technically, since you and your alts do not pay you are not a "consumer" neither are you a "customer"

    you may somehow play the game without paying, and post on the forums without paying, but saying you do not sub, does not place you in the same boat as the rest of us. you are the crackpot outside of said burger joint screaming that meat is bad for you that no one cares about.
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