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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Setting a default like 0 to display when something goes out of allowable range is exception handling.
    Not at all... imagine if during a transaction error your exception handling would be not abort the transaction, but removing the money from the sender and giving 0 to the receiver.

    The exception handling for this case would be either reroll or set it to 1, which still unfair at least noone loses out and noone would even know if something went wrong cause 1 is a valid result after all.

    Could their actual exception handling code set it to 0? Yes. Would i call it exception handling? No, cause you purposefully let through a bad result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Not at all... imagine if during a transaction error your exception handling would be not abort the transaction, but removing the money from the sender and giving 0 to the receiver.

    The exception handling for this case would be either reroll or set it to 1, which still unfair at least noone loses out and noone would even know if something went wrong cause 1 is a valid result after all.

    Could their actual exception handling code set it to 0? Yes. Would i call it exception handling? No, cause you purposefully let through a bad result.

    They stated the results were valid, it was just an error from moving the result to the end user where a disconnect happened.



    If you don't believe them well.... Conspiracy theorists thrive everywhere I guess. The XIV team is usually pretty transparent when it comes to problems, haven't given me a reason to doubt them yet.


    If a transaction fails in commerce, you still see the money "withdrawn" from your account for a few days until the bank let's it fall off.
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    Rationalizing away poor behavior.





    Spends most of his time trolling the forums and rationalizing it as "I'm not doing anything"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They stated the results were valid, it was just an error from moving the result to the end user where a disconnect happened.
    So on the serverside the results were valid but then the error happened on the enduser screen? So in theory someone should have gotten a house right? You dont see how that makes no sense right? If the results was 0 on the server but while sending it to display on the client it got error'd to 0, then someone would have gotten a house without even knowing. But that wasnt the case, so the result was 0 on the server aswell, and in that case no it wasnt a valid result cause 0 shouldnt roll. Thats just using common sense nothing to do with conspiracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    So on the serverside the results were valid but then the error happened on the enduser screen? So in theory someone should have gotten a house right? You dont see how that makes no sense right? If the results was 0 on the server but while sending it to display on the client it got error'd to 0, then someone would have gotten a house without even knowing. But that wasnt the case, so the result was 0 on the server aswell, and in that case no it wasnt a valid result cause 0 shouldnt roll. Thats just using common sense nothing to do with conspiracy



    No, the server rolled a number but it wasn't passed properly to the system that handles granting the houses. So that system had a 0 but the system that generated the winner worked properly.



    Those lottos didn't end, they extended the results period until they were able to fix the disconnect and the winners got their house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Not at all... imagine if during a transaction error your exception handling would be not abort the transaction, but removing the money from the sender and giving 0 to the receiver.

    The exception handling for this case would be either reroll or set it to 1, which still unfair at least noone loses out and noone would even know if something went wrong cause 1 is a valid result after all.

    Could their actual exception handling code set it to 0? Yes. Would i call it exception handling? No, cause you purposefully let through a bad result.
    How exactly is the server that isn't doing the rolling supposed to do a reroll? The lottery server was doing the rolling. It had a valid result. That valid result was not being passed to the instance server due to a bug and in the absence of a result the code was displaying 0 for the end user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    How exactly is the server that isn't doing the rolling supposed to do a reroll? The lottery server was doing the rolling. It had a valid result. That valid result was not being passed to the instance server due to a bug and in the absence of a result the code was displaying 0 for the end user.
    So they didnt do exception handling, thanks for confirming
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