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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Oh?

    I just got the wind up Athena from P12 Ive done all the Pandaemonium instances, start to finish. As has been said MANY TIMES, I dont worry about savage etc, dont care for it, never will.

    My choice to do what I want to do, or not as it suits me.

    Problem??
    Why are you even here then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Most, if not virtually all, are actually rolling our eyes at your continued childish antics.

    Give it...and us..a rest
    It might be childish, but at the moment they're in the right. You're being just as childish for acting as if this is some sort of war where you can't just judge the game for what it is, rather than what other people are saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Oh?

    I just got the wind up Athena from P12 Ive done all the Pandaemonium instances, start to finish. As has been said MANY TIMES, I dont worry about savage etc, dont care for it, never will.

    My choice to do what I want to do, or not as it suits me.

    Problem??
    The minion drops from normal mode...
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    The minion drops from normal mode...
    Yeah he wrote "P12" not "P12S". Seems like Vel can only fathom a bug needing to be fixed when he personally encounters it and to the obvious "it will get fixed". Well when? Today was a hotfix. Do we have to wait six months for it? I'm not doing savage either but this is a bad outlook. If some random Alexander savage raid would bug now it wouldn't be so bad but savage raiders need this broken P12S for gear, right? Once the 8.0 raids release bugfixing P12S is simply too late. Using hotfixes to fix bugs in current content is not too much to ask.
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    It was a bug. Apparently it was also an exploit.

    [Current Known Issues]
    ■It is possible to avoid knockback effects of actions used by enemies when using certain general actions such as desynthesize and repair during combat. *Please do not attempt to exploit this bug when progressing duties, as exploitation of bugs falls under prohibited behaviors.
    Why are you even here then?
    Is this an existential question?

    Yeah he wrote "P12" not "P12S". Seems like Vel can only fathom a bug needing to be fixed when he personally encounters it and to the obvious "it will get fixed".
    As to how long it will take?

    *This issue is related to core processing, including action execution and battle related processes, and since it involves an exceedingly wide scope of investigation and correction, it is expected to take some time to address the issue. Therefore, we have implemented a temporary measure only for Pandæmonium: Anabaseios (Savage), which has just been released and has been greatly affected by this issue. We will officially announce the details and timing of the fixes as soon as they are finalised.
    Source:

    https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...55464c94d5dded

    So yes it will be fixed, this is an interim measure.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiu_Ye View Post
    Very disappointing there was a hotfix and they fix a bug noone cares about but leave in the caloric bug that causes numerous wipes for people. And they dont even mention it as a known issue.
    Is this thread (https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...e-%28Savage%29) about the bug to which you are referring?

    Looks like a healthy discussion is beginning to form on that thread. At least people there seem knowledgeable about the frustration you may be experiencing.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    It was a bug. Apparently it was also an exploit.
    Source:

    https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...55464c94d5dded

    So yes it will be fixed, this is an interim measure.
    That is something different entirely. They already disabled the general actions used to avoid KB. The caloric bug is a bug that causes teams to inexplicably wipe from a debuff being added twice instead of once.

    There does seem to be work arounds that I was able to find on Reddit, but even those are iffy at best.

    Just because this is something Gaius is complaining about doesn't mean you should be dismissing the impact this has on raiders.

    Will it be fixed? Sure. But it should have been fixed alongside the exploit, and that's the problem.
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  8. #28
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    Will it be fixed? Sure. But it should have been fixed alongside the exploit, and that's the problem.
    On this, you will just have to leave it to the devs to sort out.

    Just because this is something Gaius is complaining about doesn't mean you should be dismissing the impact this has on raiders.
    I am not dismissing the impact at all. ( But you knew that already ) The way he is carrying on is, however, another issue entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    On this, you will just have to leave it to the devs to sort out.
    Yep and that's kinda the problem. How long can this wait be? Until the content isn't current anymore?
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    Last edited by BRVV; 06-06-2023 at 11:48 PM.
    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    On this, you will just have to leave it to the devs to sort out.



    I am not dismissing the impact at all. ( But you knew that already ) The way he is carrying on is, however, another issue entirely.
    This is such a ridiculous take, just like most of your posts, people are not saying "I can do better" people are saying "This needs to be fixed, its current content and people are doing it every day as of right now and a lot are dealing with this bug, this should be fixed NOW"

    It aint that hard to comprehend

    Also your problem is that you are taking this as a Gaius thread, instead of taking it as an issue that is bothering savage raiders, but you dont care about that because you dont do the content so it doesnt matter to you.
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