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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Wrong. I have raided up incl Mythic back in WOW over eight years. I donrt do it anymore. The experiences remain the same, regardless of what MMO.

    It is harassment. It is misuse of logs. And its proof to me that maybe YoshiP is right and they need to ban ACT completely.
    Yeah, and I used to play Command and Conquer competitively guess that makes my opinions on TOP valid now.

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    The experiences remain the same, regardless of what MMO.
    .
    that's such a dumb take. like lol
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    Last edited by Mosha; 06-08-2023 at 06:13 PM.

  2. #172
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    Yeah, and I used to play Command and Conquer competitively guess that makes my opinions on TOP valid now.
    TOP and the Mythic for BFA are comparable. Same parameters, same disciplines, same methodology and approach.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    TOP and the Mythic for BFA are comparable. Same parameters, same disciplines, same methodology and approach.
    right, but the devil is in the details and this is what you lack.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    bro this is you

    Yeah, that’s me. My initial replies towards OP acknowledged SE’s fault on P12S bugs and my disagreement came from hotfix described as irrelevant when it wasn’t.

    But it’s fine, it’s way easier to label people as white knight. Though that hat and dual blades are placed upon me involuntarily, they look really nice and it kind of grow on me. It’s also easier to just go along with that meme.

    So, here’s a toast from me for each day the devs NOT reading the forums. Please do whine me some more.
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Glad you admit it
    I figured people here still prefer white knight drama than any other so my mask is off.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Actually, it goes to prove SEs case on parsers. The claim is that "we use them to improve" blah blah...yet what do we see? Those same dps numbers being used as a tool to harass and embarrass other people via this forum. If you have a parser you are meant to keep it to yourself.

    Using parser numbers to harass others is in fact validation of what YoshiP has said about how they are misused..so that in turn lends weight to the idea and belief that they should not be allowed AT ALL.

    So..if using parsers like ACT is to improve your own gameplay...then there isnt any need to go poking noses into someone else logs.

    is there?

    Think on that a moment.
    Here you go:

    Don't ask questions you aren't prepared to handle the answers to
    I genuinely don't think it is harassment just to simply point out the fact. This wouldn't be too dissimilar to people trying to dismiss concerns on content or lack thereof by pointing out they haven't completed, or don't seem to have completed xyz, just as an example. The only difference being that the offense is on the different side this time. Not saying you're personally responsible, but it's a lot more prolific than you think on this forum, the only difference being that the metric is different.

    If you feel personally embarrassed by the fact then I would say this is a you problem. In many cases there actually isn't even anything wrong with that, a majority of players, even arguably those on this thread will have, at some point in time parsed grey. The difference being that some people decide to use it as self-motivation to either improve or look where a problem is, and some people will elect to wallow in self-pity on the fact.

    Harassment is not pointing out the fact, harassment would be something a whole lot stronger, frankly.

    What the intended use for a particular piece of data is, and what people elect to use said data for are 2 entirely different things. Under this premise, I could actually make a pretty good case that minions and mounts collection should be hidden from the lodestone, because you could absolutely and very easily harass someone over that. Equally, you could harass someone over achievement score pretty easily, and arguably to a lot more of a toxic degree than, say, parsing.

    Let me try and reframe this for you... Nobody entirely disagrees with whether they are bugs or not, whether they're abusable or not, etc., - The problem is when you write stuff such as this:

    I take exception, however, to the again toxic attitude that it needs to be " fixed nao " or that SE is "incompetent" or that "They dont do QA". They do.
    At the end of the day, to a degree, it doesn't matter what the fact behind the scene is - The end result is entirely the same that people are left with bugs that otherwise can intrude on something that should be enjoyable, so yes, people are going to be annoyed, and trying to feign some high-ground is only going to aggravate.

    Edit (Just as another example, and seemingly on the front page):
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    I dont see what the huge fuss here is. Bugs happen. All the time. They happen, they get reported, they get fixed. As if this is something new or unheard of.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 06-08-2023 at 06:38 PM.

  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    It is indeed. Kind sickening to a point. This is the kind of crap stalkers get up to.



    Which then begs the question as to what the hell were you doing looking for it in the first place?

    Am I in your static?

    No.

    Am I on your server?

    No.

    Am I any savage or ex groups you may be in?

    No.

    Then what damned business is it of yours poking your nose in there to begin with?
    What business do you have in this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Wrong. I have raided up incl Mythic back in WOW over eight years. I dont do it anymore. The experiences remain the same, regardless of what MMO.

    It is harassment. It is misuse of logs. And its proof to me that maybe YoshiP is right and they need to ban ACT completely.
    This is a blatant lie and honestly the most annoying part about you.

    Its very clear you have absolutely 0 fucking experience about high end content. Nothing you ever post shows you have a shred of a clue of wtf happens and how people approach high end content.

    Why lie???
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Wrong. I have raided up incl Mythic back in WOW over eight years. I dont do it anymore. The experiences remain the same, regardless of what MMO.

    It is harassment. It is misuse of logs. And its proof to me that maybe YoshiP is right and they need to ban ACT completely.
    I used to play Dofus back then about 15 years ago which is an MMO too, surely I am now fully fledged on P12S and I can just join any group because afterall is exactly the same thing right ? If they ask me if I have experience I'll just tell them I played Dofus and WoW in the highest difficulty, right ?

    Lmao, this is actually one of your worst takes ever on this forum, well done lad this is getting better and better
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  10. #180
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    What business do you have in this thread?
    Same as yours, it would seem.
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