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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selsix View Post
    If it's not intended to be a megathread why are you trying to redirect people from this thread to that one? More threads on this topic improves visibility of the issue, I didn't even know there -was- another thread about this. Let it ride.
    My point was that it wasn't intended, but it turned into one. It has by far the most views/posts regarding this topic on the whole forum.
    I also never said to prioritize one thread over the other. In fact, the more active threads about how needless glamour restrictions are, the better.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Well, the idea of restricting it based on latest expansion/patch release is to save people from themselves. Gear during the latest expansion/patch release is actually useful as gear. While you should always have the need option ready for anything pertaining to your class, things could still get a bit toxic.

    As for the level restrictions... this is FFXIV, not other MMOs. That's just pure whataboutism. This is a game at the end of the day, and I don't think it's unfair to ask people to play the content in order to receive the rewards, cosmetic or otherwise.

    Again, I'm saying this with the idea that glam restrictions are loosened a bit(before someone who doesn't know how to read gets other ideas)., but if you want to glam the healer top then go play a healer. If you want to glam the pally pants go play a tank. If you want to glam anything pertaining to any dps go play that role.

    Assuming they removed glam restrictions by role, I don't think it'd be asking much to ask people to have to be able to actually equip the items they want to glam, even if the glam is for other jobs. It gives people something to aim for and makes them play the game. If we're not willing to add a condition like that, then we genuinely just need to accept that this game is going to be a SL/Imvu sim instead.
    I argue this because a lot of gear pieces could still function for a lot other class fantasy appropriate glams. Heck even many of the current designs have that class identity extremely blurred. Its only serving to be more frustrating than anything for the players on constantly getting that situation of "why can these boots also be used for casters" or the most common issue I run into is "how come this armored harness is only used by Monks and Samurais and not actual tanks!?".

    Nobody is going to quit because you decided to match that Creed Gauntlets (HW Paladin Artifact) with your Dragoon armor. If they did, those people already left a long time ago as soon as this game got sillier with their all roles glams and pvp heavy armor sets that any class can wear. The rules have already been broken, so why pretend that it should still exist?

    Also this isnt much of an excuse but even the character designs for NPCs dont adhere to the "role" restriction that us players suffer from for their outfits. It just makes a lot more sense to remove the restriction in a game that favors a lot on their cosmetics.
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    Last edited by Atelier-Bagur; 06-08-2023 at 06:26 AM.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    in FFXI, the much much much much superior game (according to EU and JP players, the only players whose opinion matter), the artifact gear was wearable by every job
    Im currently working on getting my Monk artifact armor for my FFXI character in the hopes of being able to use it for every job. Im happy that you've confirmed that.

    See? If an old game like FFXI doesnt have an issue with it, why FFXIV?
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  4. #34
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    It would be nice if they could remove it yeah.
    They would need to increase the glamour dresser though. People already have too many glams.
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    And yet u can look like this

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/dfda345373d/

    While mining
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    In fact, the more active threads about how needless glamour restrictions are, the better.
    Sounds like we are on the same page then, carry on my friend.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Im currently working on getting my Monk artifact armor for my FFXI character in the hopes of being able to use it for every job. Im happy that you've confirmed that.

    See? If an old game like FFXI doesnt have an issue with it, why FFXIV?
    Actually FFXI doesn't allow you to equip AF on any Job, that poster is completely wrong. Changes to style lock (FFXI's glamour system) do apparently allow it to be glamoured on any Job (as long as the other Job is the required level), but you cannot equip it normally as such. And it certainly wasn't the case when glamour was first introduced (gear could only be glamoured if you could equip it on that Job).

    And as FFXI is now officially in maintenence mode, I don't think we can really use FFXI as an example of what FFXIV's glamour system should be.

    Also FFXI has enemy mechanics that actually break your glamour (certain enemy attacks strip you of your armour and weapon, and if this happens it deactivates your current glamour as well), so that is the trade off they have...
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 06-08-2023 at 07:43 AM.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Also FFXI has enemy mechanics that actually break your glamour (certain enemy attacks strip you of your armour and weapon, and if this happens it deactivates your current glamour as well), so that is the trade off they have...
    I think you're looking at this the wrong way. FFXI having a flawed glam system doesn't mean we should, and it absolutely makes sense to draw parallels of restrictions between both games as they're run by the same company, maintenance mode or not.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selsix View Post
    If it's not intended to be a megathread why are you trying to redirect people from this thread to that one? More threads on this topic improves visibility of the issue, I didn't even know there -was- another thread about this. Let it ride.
    Time and time again SE has said to use the Like button and post in one topic re an issue so they can accurately see how popular something may be.
    Having multiple topics open for the same point is harming visibility to the community reps, not improving it.
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  10. #40
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    long time ago I would had disagreed with the OP, but considering the outright silliness of outfits these days we might as well go all the way.

    Open up all glam.

    P.S.

    2B Leggings was a mistake.
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