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    Banriikku's Avatar
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Remove the restirctions an Glam. Period. The argument "you should be able to equip the item to glam it" is absolut nonsense because it's based of the idea of "the look of a job". We have all kinds of BS outfits out there that are so far away from the "Job-Fantasy" they are not even in the same universe anymore. It's glamour no stats or boni are used here. If i unlocked it through : buying, clearing or get it gifted let me glamour it. There is no reason for it. BTW. On the healer's: WE GOT ALMOST ONLY ROBES..... R OOOOOOO BBBBB EEE SSSS.... Let us healer's glamour what ever we want and stop gatekeep for no reason. IT'S GLAMOUR, NO STATS INVOLVED.

    Second reason: "But glamour need to be earned" ..... WHAT ? Mogstation, Season Events, Mandervill Weapons = Earned? Do you know the meaning of the word in this context or in general?
    Third reason : "but it devolves to Glam-Sim...mimiimimiiiii" Are you kidding me ? You want to police how OTHER play ? Glamour is free and for everyone and the system is old and only got band aids the last of couple of years. Lets update it and stop pretending the idea form 1.0 and earlier are still in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    When I saw that we were going from Broil III at 290 potency in ShB to Broil IV at 295 potency in EW, I was shaking with how excited I was. I couldn't believe they were so generous with a whole 5 potency. I'm going to probably scream in excitement when 7.0 comes out and Broil V hits 300 potency, playing SCH going to be WILD once it hits 300!!!

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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Well, the idea of restricting it based on latest expansion/patch release is to save people from themselves. Gear during the latest expansion/patch release is actually useful as gear. While you should always have the need option ready for anything pertaining to your class, things could still get a bit toxic.

    As for the level restrictions... this is FFXIV, not other MMOs. That's just pure whataboutism. This is a game at the end of the day, and I don't think it's unfair to ask people to play the content in order to receive the rewards, cosmetic or otherwise.

    Again, I'm saying this with the idea that glam restrictions are loosened a bit(before someone who doesn't know how to read gets other ideas)., but if you want to glam the healer top then go play a healer. If you want to glam the pally pants go play a tank. If you want to glam anything pertaining to any dps go play that role.

    Assuming they removed glam restrictions by role, I don't think it'd be asking much to ask people to have to be able to actually equip the items they want to glam, even if the glam is for other jobs. It gives people something to aim for and makes them play the game. If we're not willing to add a condition like that, then we genuinely just need to accept that this game is going to be a SL/Imvu sim instead.
    I argue this because a lot of gear pieces could still function for a lot other class fantasy appropriate glams. Heck even many of the current designs have that class identity extremely blurred. Its only serving to be more frustrating than anything for the players on constantly getting that situation of "why can these boots also be used for casters" or the most common issue I run into is "how come this armored harness is only used by Monks and Samurais and not actual tanks!?".

    Nobody is going to quit because you decided to match that Creed Gauntlets (HW Paladin Artifact) with your Dragoon armor. If they did, those people already left a long time ago as soon as this game got sillier with their all roles glams and pvp heavy armor sets that any class can wear. The rules have already been broken, so why pretend that it should still exist?

    Also this isnt much of an excuse but even the character designs for NPCs dont adhere to the "role" restriction that us players suffer from for their outfits. It just makes a lot more sense to remove the restriction in a game that favors a lot on their cosmetics.
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    Last edited by Atelier-Bagur; 06-08-2023 at 06:26 AM.

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    Player SeiyaSoiya's Avatar
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
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    Marilith
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    in FFXI, the much much much much superior game (according to EU and JP players, the only players whose opinion matter), the artifact gear was wearable by every job
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    in FFXI, the much much much much superior game (according to EU and JP players, the only players whose opinion matter), the artifact gear was wearable by every job
    Im currently working on getting my Monk artifact armor for my FFXI character in the hopes of being able to use it for every job. Im happy that you've confirmed that.

    See? If an old game like FFXI doesnt have an issue with it, why FFXIV?
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Im currently working on getting my Monk artifact armor for my FFXI character in the hopes of being able to use it for every job. Im happy that you've confirmed that.

    See? If an old game like FFXI doesnt have an issue with it, why FFXIV?
    Actually FFXI doesn't allow you to equip AF on any Job, that poster is completely wrong. Changes to style lock (FFXI's glamour system) do apparently allow it to be glamoured on any Job (as long as the other Job is the required level), but you cannot equip it normally as such. And it certainly wasn't the case when glamour was first introduced (gear could only be glamoured if you could equip it on that Job).

    And as FFXI is now officially in maintenence mode, I don't think we can really use FFXI as an example of what FFXIV's glamour system should be.

    Also FFXI has enemy mechanics that actually break your glamour (certain enemy attacks strip you of your armour and weapon, and if this happens it deactivates your current glamour as well), so that is the trade off they have...
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 06-08-2023 at 07:43 AM.

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    Tristan Chevrefeuille
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Also FFXI has enemy mechanics that actually break your glamour (certain enemy attacks strip you of your armour and weapon, and if this happens it deactivates your current glamour as well), so that is the trade off they have...
    I think you're looking at this the wrong way. FFXI having a flawed glam system doesn't mean we should, and it absolutely makes sense to draw parallels of restrictions between both games as they're run by the same company, maintenance mode or not.
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    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    You just don't get it, the same 3 gearsets being shared by 7 different roles actually really matter to each job identity.
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    Bunbun Thurm
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    It would be nice if they could remove it yeah.
    They would need to increase the glamour dresser though. People already have too many glams.
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    Yuri Tasca
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    And yet u can look like this

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/dfda345373d/

    While mining
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