Skill/Spell Speed Should be Removed from Gear

[ForteNightshade]

I think the better solution is to either remove rings being unique so you could have two augmented tome rings or two raid rings in the event one has skill/spell speed, which conflicts with your build. Or simply make it so that rings never have S.Speed like how they've changed the weapons to always be Crit/Direct Hit.

This fixes the issue we're having now where tanks are using a i650 ring. Healers still have that problem but that's due to Piety being a near useless stat. It needs to have a damage calculation like Tenacity or, preferably, both stats are reworked so tanks and healers don't avoid them like the damn plague. It's a bit silly how last tier it was actually better to run pentmelded i620 pants than use the i640 Abyssos ones all because the latter had Piety.

[Shurrikhan]

Hell no. It's the only secondary stat with an actual effect on gameplay and basically the only actual player customization (different rotations at different GCD thresholds) permitted in the entire game beyond job choice.

Just merge Skill Speed and Spell Speed together and call it a day.

I'm starting to think people didn't read the OP before responding.

You are correct. I read up until the last paragraph, but sadly, that was the first paragraph in which you moved on from simply bemoaning SkS/SpS.

I'd be fine with removing Skill/Spell Speed from gear so long as I can still reach extreme GCD thresholds without it. At present, that's not remotely possible.

If I wanted to play a 2.00s GCD SAM, for instance, the vast majority of my SkS would come from gear. To be able to get that from Materia alone, you'd have to more than double the weight of each secondary stat point of SkS.

However, as SkS isn't that badly scaling a stat even as is, you'd have to also buff all other secondary stats by (roughly) the same proportion as not to make it obligatory.

If we could somehow convince the devs to deal with that balancing obstacle of more than doubling the value of secondary stats, though, I'd be in agreement.

[Payadopa]

We shouldn't remove everything that slightly inconveniences someone. If anything XIV needs to add more stuff to their battle system.

[KitingGenbu]

I miss dual-stat materia from 1.0

[Coatl]

OP is objectively correct.

[AwesomeJr44]

Hell no. It's the only secondary stat with an actual effect on gameplay and basically the only actual player customization (different rotations at different GCD thresholds) permitted in the entire game beyond job choice.

Here is my proposed solution: remove SKS completely from gear's substats and make it something you get exclusively from melding with materia. This grants more control to the player to choose what speed they want to play at without restricting what kinds of gear they're allowed to use during prog or reclears. To compensate for this change, the values for SKS/SPS tiers would also be adjusted to require smaller amounts of the stat per stat tier.

I'm starting to think people didn't read the OP before responding.

OP is objectively correct.

I'm not sure if I'm objectively correct, but I haven't really heard a good counterargument yet.

We shouldn't remove everything that slightly inconveniences someone. If anything XIV needs to add more stuff to their battle system.

It depends on why. If the inconvenience is for a good reason, then it should be kept in the game. If it's just inconvenience for inconvenience's sake, or a dumb system at its core, then it should be changed. QoL can be a good thing in many cases. However, I will agree with you on the second point.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It doesn't really grant more control. You can't get as much sks/sps from melds as you could with what's on gear.

[Coatl]

It doesn't really grant more control. You can't get as much sks/sps from melds as you could with what's on gear.

Then just increase the amount of skill/spell speed you get from melds. Classes shouldn't even need more skillspeed than baseline for their class rotations to play out properly.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Then just increase the amount of skill/spell speed you get from melds. Classes shouldn't even need more skillspeed than baseline for their class rotations to play out properly.

It's not always about proper rotations. Sometimes it's fun to go fast. Especially when the dps difference is negligible. Sam has several gcd tiers that are within a fraction of each other's dps.

[AwesomeJr44]

It doesn't really grant more control. You can't get as much sks/sps from melds as you could with what's on gear.

Here is my proposed solution: remove SKS completely from gear's substats and make it something you get exclusively from melding with materia. This grants more control to the player to choose what speed they want to play at without restricting what kinds of gear they're allowed to use during prog or reclears. To compensate for this change, the values for SKS/SPS tiers would also be adjusted to require smaller amounts of the stat per stat tier.

I literally covered that point in my OP. Why do people keep responding without even reading what they are responding to?

It's not always about proper rotations. Sometimes it's fun to go fast.

Meld full speed.

I guess im confused though why you can't take the tome weapon as it would still be a DPS increase, especially the 660 weapon.

It doesn't play the same. That's why SKS/SPS is different from other stats. Having more Crit or DH won't change the way you interact with the game apart from how big your numbers are.