Is game in danger of eventually breakings?

[Stormpeaks]

i find your lack of faith....disturbing.

This is Square Enix, they havent fixed the housing scarcity since it's been released, please forgive me for having 0 faith in them. It took them multiple years to add 5 wards that were filled in 2 rounds so yeah faith is pretty much 0

[GaiusDrakon]

i find your lack of faith....disturbing.

The fact that the word "faith" is used at all in a capitalist economy where the corporation's incentive is to maximize its profits and not be the customer's friend...

That's what's disturbing.

Imagine unironically seeing placing FAITH in a CORPO as a good thing.

At this point I think gamers, and really just consumers in general, have only themselves to blame because most of them are THIS stupid and gullible!!!

Or maybe it's not such a bad thing since people are all getting a high from being such loyal paypigs

[MaxCarnage]

"Square can't do what modders have been doing for years" is such an asinine thing to me.

Imagine thinking that a mod, even just a reshader, which is completely client side, and only affects the stability of the software on a client side basis, has the same impact as a server side reshader, which again, is server side and actually gets recognized by the game and goes out to millions of people.

Am I defending Square and saying that it's okay if they don't have this? Nah, I'm a realist. There will probably be bugs and crashes upon release. And it'll be frustrating. That's the state of games nowadays, unfortunately. It really sucks. But I'm also not so silly as to think that just because a modder has been able to do it that it really is a simple task when it comes to implementing it server side and only a buffoon could mess it up.

You can't just copy and paste a client side mod into server side and have it work. So the notion that "modders have been doing it for years" literally holds no weight whatsoever.

[Shinkuno]

"Square can't do what modders have been doing for years" is such an asinine thing to me.

Imagine thinking that a mod, even just a reshader, which is completely client side, and only affects the stability of the software on a client side basis, has the same impact as a server side reshader, which again, is server side and actually gets recognized by the game and goes out to millions of people.

Am I defending Square and saying that it's okay if they don't have this? Nah, I'm a realist. There will probably be bugs and crashes upon release. And it'll be frustrating. That's the state of games nowadays, unfortunately. It really sucks. But I'm also not so silly as to think that just because a modder has been able to do it that it really is a simple task when it comes to implementing it server side and only a buffoon could mess it up.

You can't just copy and paste a client side mod into server side and have it work. So the notion that "modders have been doing it for years" literally holds no weight whatsoever.

Did you just unironically say shading is done serverside? My god no wonder Square gets away with all the shit, you guys are so technically illiterate. NOTHING on the graphic side has any impact on the server. No viera hats, no shading, no high res textures. All that has no affect on the server AT ALL. Stop the "Well akshually mods can only do it cause its client side"

[GaiusDrakon]

My god no wonder Square gets away with all the shit, you guys are so technically illiterate.

How firms get away with exploiting consumers: consumers have negative 5000 iq

[SassyAssassin]

No viera hats

[Deo14]

"Square can't do what modders have been doing for years" is such an asinine thing to me.

Imagine thinking that a mod, even just a reshader, which is completely client side, and only affects the stability of the software on a client side basis, has the same impact as a server side reshader, which again, is server side and actually gets recognized by the game and goes out to millions of people.

Am I defending Square and saying that it's okay if they don't have this? Nah, I'm a realist. There will probably be bugs and crashes upon release. And it'll be frustrating. That's the state of games nowadays, unfortunately. It really sucks. But I'm also not so silly as to think that just because a modder has been able to do it that it really is a simple task when it comes to implementing it server side and only a buffoon could mess it up.

You can't just copy and paste a client side mod into server side and have it work. So the notion that "modders have been doing it for years" literally holds no weight whatsoever.

???

Why would be server responsible for that? Do you just send raw frame + metadata, which for 1080p is ~8MB per single frame to the server, which does postprocessing and sends you improved 8MB frame??? With 60 frames, that's 480MB bandwith up and down per client, which is straight up impossible with even best customer-grade available internet connection, not speaking about the fact that you would be throttled by another parts of your PC unless you're playing on NASA PC. What the fuck are you talking about. This is not how it works. This is not how any of this works.



Half fitting real world analogy would be electric car without battery, which needs to be plugged 24/7 using extension cords that leads all the way to your house.

[Kaurhz]

"Square can't do what modders have been doing for years" is such an asinine thing to me.

Imagine thinking that a mod, even just a reshader, which is completely client side, and only affects the stability of the software on a client side basis, has the same impact as a server side reshader, which again, is server side and actually gets recognized by the game and goes out to millions of people.

Am I defending Square and saying that it's okay if they don't have this? Nah, I'm a realist. There will probably be bugs and crashes upon release. And it'll be frustrating. That's the state of games nowadays, unfortunately. It really sucks. But I'm also not so silly as to think that just because a modder has been able to do it that it really is a simple task when it comes to implementing it server side and only a buffoon could mess it up.

You can't just copy and paste a client side mod into server side and have it work. So the notion that "modders have been doing it for years" literally holds no weight whatsoever.

Shaders and the like even from SE's perspective wouldn't necessarily have impact on them at all from server-side. It would just be client-side rendering that has an impact.

That being said, yes it is an asinine thing to say, as shaders is just post-processing so it cannot fix or change vertex/polygon count on 3D models. So there are absolutely things that SE can do that shaders cannot do. That also said, it won't magically resolve every woe, and nor will it really eliminate the shader entirely, since they will like aim to resolve different things. At best shaders can only 'simulate' this.

But seeing as this game runs across multiple platforms it's borderline insane to make mockery of it considering 1 platform cannot do this in any capacity.

But anyone saying that the graphical update can and will only do everything that shaders already do is just... Naïve at best

[Stormpeaks]

"Square can't do what modders have been doing for years" is such an asinine thing to me.

Imagine thinking that a mod, even just a reshader, which is completely client side, and only affects the stability of the software on a client side basis, has the same impact as a server side reshader, which again, is server side and actually gets recognized by the game and goes out to millions of people.

Am I defending Square and saying that it's okay if they don't have this? Nah, I'm a realist. There will probably be bugs and crashes upon release. And it'll be frustrating. That's the state of games nowadays, unfortunately. It really sucks. But I'm also not so silly as to think that just because a modder has been able to do it that it really is a simple task when it comes to implementing it server side and only a buffoon could mess it up.

You can't just copy and paste a client side mod into server side and have it work. So the notion that "modders have been doing it for years" literally holds no weight whatsoever.

[IckeDerTyp]

I'd say it's already broken in most ways, Mao ^^