<Players Abusing the chocobo Escort missions>

[viviffx]

One thing people need to understand Caravan is not party content its pick up and play. Making an group for this is setting your self up to fail because you can not say this caravan is full, its first come first serve its like behest you get in or you don't. GC leves still need to be adjusted the /poke leves need to be 300 seals max and the 15 mins leves should be the same as caravan.

I understand your point to this, but Like I said I think the main problem here is people running to the end and not helping, This is the point I am trying to get across!

[CrazyViet228]

Pick up and play makes sense but uhmm Pick up and go afk should definately gtfo of the party, currently dealing with that issue right now something needs to be done.

[Firon]

I understand your point to this, but Like I said I think the main problem here is people running to the end and not helping, This is the point I am trying to get across!

I agree i don't like when people do that, They should put one of those instance circles around the choco so you can wonder off to far.

[Jinko]

I have reported the issue to GM's which i learned that they do not handle such issues.

Makes you laugh really doesn't it, GM's in the game are as much use a wet blanket.

They need to have it so that if someone is inactive the whole fight they are disqualified at the end, or make it based on contribution (this can go horribly wrong though if not done properly).

Personally I would suggest making each caravan and behest create a new instance for every 8 people who sign up, you could even have an auto group feature prior to the event starting, this really doesn't give us much faith in 2.0 if they can't even get this right in 1.x

[Maxthunder]

Makes you laugh really doesn't it, GM's in the game are as much use a wet blanket.

They need to have it so that if someone is inactive the whole fight they are disqualified at the end, or make it based on contribution (this can go horribly wrong though if not done properly).

Personally I would suggest making each caravan and behest create a new instance for every 8 people who sign up, you could even have an auto group feature prior to the event starting, this really doesn't give us much faith in 2.0 if they can't even get this right in 1.x

I am sorry but we already have enough crap thats instanced content. We really dont need anymore instanced content. They can solve this issue another way instead of making escorts instanced.

[Hiruke]

I am sorry but we already have enough crap thats instanced content. We really dont need anymore instanced content. They can solve this issue another way instead of making escorts instanced.

Really? Then what's your idea? If your suggestion is "that's stupid we can do better", clearly neither of those are true. Do you have anything substantial on offer?

There's no particular reason why Behest and Caravan aren't set up the same way as LQs. The fact that SE made Caravan highly desirable, despite the fact that only 24 people on a server can do it at the same time, is incredibly short-sighted. Unless their master plan is to encourage players to grief each other, I'm sure I could think of far more negative ways to describe the absolutely horrible design choices that went into designing Behest and Caravan as they stand now.

You want xp from Caravan? Too bad; I hope everyone in the Caravan is in the same PT! Folks will regularly snipe spots and get claim on mobs first to prevent you from getting xp/drops (of no consequence if you're already 50, but you can get a lot of xp while doing Caravan if you're not already 50, in addition to other stuff).

You want to be assured everyone is going to participate, and want a method to expunge them if not? NOPE! They can just sit at the end and wait for you stupid lot to do the work for them. Yay!

I could go on, but if you can't comprehend the system is hideously broken, what I'm typing probably looks like 209483209843 2034u23k4lj 2kjlhsad;klw aeo;982 340982 3048923

[Hiruke]

One thing people need to understand Caravan is not party content its pick up and play. Making an group for this is setting your self up to fail because you can not say this caravan is full, its first come first serve its like behest you get in or you don't. GC leves still need to be adjusted the /poke leves need to be 300 seals max and the 15 mins leves should be the same as caravan.

No idea what your point is. It's poorly designed, regardless of the objective here. Also, forcing an even to be "pick up and play" to the point where you can't even decide who you're playing with should you want to is beyond ridiculous. Sure, that works out for stuff in FF11 like Besieged, where half the server is participating, but certainly not something designed for a single PT.

That there is a "pick up and play" option on offer would be fine, though it should force everyone into a PT. You should also have the option to play with your friends if you want to do that instead, and have the Caravan sectioned off just like an LQ. There's no particularly good reason for it to be the way it is now.

[Maxthunder]

Really? Then what's your idea? If your suggestion is "that's stupid we can do better", clearly neither of those are true. Do you have anything substantial on offer?

There's no particular reason why Behest and Caravan aren't set up the same way as LQs. The fact that SE made Caravan highly desirable, despite the fact that only 24 people on a server can do it at the same time, is incredibly short-sighted. Unless their master plan is to encourage players to grief each other, I'm sure I could think of far more negative ways to describe the absolutely horrible design choices that went into designing Behest and Caravan as they stand now.

You want xp from Caravan? Too bad; I hope everyone in the Caravan is in the same PT! Folks will regularly snipe spots and get claim on mobs first to prevent you from getting xp/drops (of no consequence if you're already 50, but you can get a lot of xp while doing Caravan if you're not already 50, in addition to other stuff).

You want to be assured everyone is going to participate, and want a method to expunge them if not? NOPE! They can just sit at the end and wait for you stupid lot to do the work for them. Yay!

I could go on, but if you can't comprehend the system is hideously broken, what I'm typing probably looks like 209483209843 2034u23k4lj 2kjlhsad;klw aeo;982 340982 3048923

Best suggestion some1 already said and that is on a lvl 45 escort the restriction to join should be 3 plus members. If you want everything instanced than this game isnt for you. There is no reason for every damn piece of content to become instanced at all. Now some of you dont like competition, thats understandable but again there is no reason what so ever to instance escorts.


Now dont forget players except maybe a few rarely did escorts before due to the amount of seals. Leave escorts open world with restrictions, as some1 else already stated increase the amount of escorts that can be done. Again there are other options instead of making everything instanced, just because players dont post every idea dosent mean there isnt any. I am not gonna sit here and type every idea I have on this it is not my job, that is up to the DEVS. I am merely giving feed back or my opinion on the subject, so there is no need to get bent out of shape.

One finally thought: are players that impatient or cant they go do other things until that escort is free?

[Aleksandr]

...One finally thought: are players that impatient or cant they go do other things until that escort is free?

Lets just say there are only 1000 people per sever at a time. Lets say half of them want to do a Caravan run. 500 into the 24 slots is 21 (I rounded up) people per slot.

Now the purpose of a MMO is being able to log on and play Do the things I want to do. The purpose of a MMO is not when new content comes out I have to wait a week, month, or three months to be able to exprince it. I do not believe the purpose of a (good) MMO is for me to change my life to experince the features I am paying for. I am realtively active and am paying to play the parts of the game I like (in theory). In reality I am paying to wait for people to grow bored with the content I want to play so I can play it last.

tldr;
This is not social content I am in a pick up group with people who may not even play. It is play something else until the server gets bored of it content. That is why I endorse an instance for this. So I can play with people I like (or strangers nearby as it takes more than two people to complete anyway).

[Maxthunder]

Lets just say there are only 1000 people per sever at a time. Lets say half of them want to do a Caravan run. 500 into the 24 slots is 21 (I rounded up) people per slot.

Now the purpose of a MMO is being able to log on and play Do the things I want to do. The purpose of a MMO is not when new content comes out I have to wait a week, month, or three months to be able to exprince it. I do not believe the purpose of a (good) MMO is for me to change my life to experince the features I am paying for. I am realtively active and am paying to play the parts of the game I like (in theory). In reality I am paying to wait for people to grow bored with the content I want to play so I can play it last.

tldr;
This is not social content I am in a pick up group with people who may not even play. It is play something else until the server gets bored of it content. That is why I endorse an instance for this. So I can play with people I like (or strangers nearby as it takes more than two people to complete anyway).

It seems players need to realize there are other ways to make seal, every1 dont have to do escorts. Also players need not wait till the last min to decide "OH DAMN I HAVE NO SEAL". I myself am alsways capped or close to cap on seals. I dont wait to the last min and than realize im gonna need seals. Now instead of doing escorts you can do leves, run tot rak, and do grand company supplies for seals. The issue at hand is everyone WANTS THERE SEALS NOW!!! This attitude needs to go away it dosent help anyone it will only bring more issues. Now for those of you that suggest make it instanced guess what now you will have a cool down timer so instances would be open for other groups. So in the end you gain being able to do escorts in an instance but you lose being able to start a new one right after finishing your last.