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    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    3) Those who have a problem expressing them openly but DON'T want to subdue them - so they just call people demons and witches (or transphobes and bigots and racists and so on), and use that as justification to be just like the people in (2) just with a clean conscience.
    I dunno, if calling out bigotry is an inner demon then I really do not think I have a problem expressing it. Me and this demon get on rather well I think! Think I will call them... Woki. That has a nice ring to it given the topic.
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    Here is my answer: NOPE! NADA, No way, Nehh...
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    One thing that would be nice is if they made the weapon idle stances intersex. Kinda makes no sense that the fighting stances/styles are the same between sexes but the weapon idle animations can't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    One thing that would be nice is if they made the weapon idle stances intersex. Kinda makes no sense that the fighting stances/styles are the same between sexes but the weapon idle animations can't be.
    They already did that for newly released jobs as as DNC, GNB, SGE and RPR.

    This give them exuse to be lazy for having only to design 1 animation. I prefer to have different animation for males and females. For me, the differences between man and woman are what make us beautiful.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    They already did that for newly released jobs as as DNC, GNB, SGE and RPR.

    This give them exuse to be lazy for having only to design 1 animation. I prefer to have different animation for males and females. For me, the differences between man and woman are what make us beautiful.
    This is more a "Square Enix will take any excuse to get lazy" and less an issue with gender neutrality.
    And some of the "differences between man or woman" they chose to implement are just straight up strange. Like, what's particularly feminine or masculine with DRK's female idle stance? Why couldn't women have Kain's iconic pose (which isn't particularly masculine either)?

    Ideally it's just more choice. Traditionally masculine or feminine traits aren't erased, but not everyone always want to conform to these.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 06-03-2023 at 06:01 PM.

  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    This is more a "Square Enix will take any excuse to get lazy" and less an issue with gender neutrality.
    And some of the "differences between man or woman" they chose to implement are just straight up strange. Like, what's particularly feminine or masculine with DRK's female idle stance? Why couldn't women have Kain's iconic pose (which isn't particularly masculine either)?

    Ideally it's just more choice. Traditionally masculine or feminine traits aren't erased, but not everyone always want to conform to these.
    What do you mean? Female DRK and DRG idle poses are cool af and I appreciate them. There are always people not happy about the animaton they have. I even like certain female poses more. Sometimes men get the cake, sometimes it's women's turn to have nice things.

    When I say differences I don't mean musculinity for men and femininity for women. I just want different animations for opposite sex.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    One thing that would be nice is if they made the weapon idle stances intersex. Kinda makes no sense that the fighting stances/styles are the same between sexes but the weapon idle animations can't be.
    Please this. I want to sling my great sword over my arm and not look like I’m trying to pull the master sword out of wherever I’m standing. I prefer a few of the male ones whereas their female counterparts can kind of look meek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    What do you mean? Female DRK and DRG idle poses are cool af and I appreciate them. There are always people not happy about the animaton they have. I even like certain female poses more. Sometimes men get the cake, sometimes it's women's turn to have nice things.

    When I say differences I don't mean musculinity for men and femininity for women. I just want different animations for opposite sex.
    Certain females poses are better, certain males poses are better.
    And I agree with that we should have two animations, not one, I was just advocating for the possibility of switching between the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Nope wait...you admitted to being Skiros. But if I was to dive deeper...(and I won't cause I'm tired) I could probably link Skiros to Titanmen from slip ups.
    Are you the missing link between skiros and titanmen? You are a highlander after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    Are you the missing link between skiros and titanmen? You are a highlander after all.
    Can confirm he is not
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