Non-binary gender needs to be added to character customization

[TitanMenII]

Those scientists who agree with you happen to invest on prodution of chemicals that transition one's sex

There is no evidence for this.

[Apolline]

I would fully support SE adding a Type A (masculine) & Type B (feminine) style of emote (and maybe running) animations selectable at the character creation screen, similar to how the Demon's Souls remake handled their character creation. No need for anything else and it would give people slightly more customization without adding a new gender category.

The character creation in general is in dire need of a make over anyway

[DPZ2]

The character creation in general is in dire need of a make over anyway

I'm not so sure that character creation for a ten-year old MMORPG can be modified to any great extent. More cosmetic changes (hairstyles and facepaint) are simple enough, but the game uses standard body models that would be hard to change without a complete makeover of the entire armor system. I don't remember such major changes in any of the MMORPG games I've played over the years. Either it was built-in at game creation or it wasn't and didn't change.

Then again, SE is apparently rewriting the graphics system, so anything might be possible. It might look like a different game, but I suspect it will still look like a Final Fantasy game.

Guess we'll just have to wait until the end of July for that sort of information on 7.0.

[Apolline]

Oh I 100% agree we aren’t going to get a massive overhaul. I meant more like…customization choices like unlocking the horns from the au ra faces. I don’t expect new character models

[Apolline]

Although I guess that shows how deprived I feel we are of real customization, that just unlocking traits is something I consider a massive update lol

[Narissa]

This thread has derailed like so hard into a flame war, am surprised it hasn't been removed/deleted yet.

I honestly dont think SE will ever fully go through with this sorry, with the way its going in the media and with creeps/pe**** (censoring this word for the kids!) 'transitioning' to women to enter ladies/girls bathrooms/locker-rooms freely... to well you know.. its not going well and actual transgendered women are as a result getting ALOT of backlash.

And as for the 'identifying as' .. young children in schools are getting so confused by the whole media flush, that they're claiming to be animals and wanting to be treated/feed as such...

So ya.. its a big media mess and I doubt SE will want to go near that xD But GL!

[DiaDeem]

I honestly dont think SE will ever fully go through with this

It's already a thing in Harvestella's character creator though. You can chose whatever pronouns you want, they/them included.

I don't get why people make much of a big deal of this being an option on anything really. More options = more personalization, and that's always good.

[Theodric]

It's already a thing in Harvestella's character creator though. You can chose whatever pronouns you want, they/them included.

I don't get why people make much of a big deal of this being an option on anything really. More options = more personalization, and that's always good.

A lot of people make a big deal about it - quite rightly - because it often doesn't equal 'more options'.

Last I checked, you can't create a masculine looking character in Harvestella. It was a common criticism of the game during the marketing phase, as I recall.

Even when accounting for FFXIV, I've often found myself left wanting given the disproportionate amount of focus placed on androgynous and feminine hairstyles/outfits as opposed to traditionally masculine ones.

[TitanMenII]

I would fully support SE adding a Type A (masculine) & Type B (feminine) style of emote (and maybe running) animations selectable at the character creation screen, similar to how the Demon's Souls remake handled their character creation. No need for anything else and it would give people slightly more customization without adding a new gender category.

The character creation in general is in dire need of a make over anyway

That is a very nice compromise and will allow bigender players to mix and match their way of expression.

[DiaDeem]

A lot of people make a big deal about it - quite rightly - because it often doesn't equal 'more options'.

Last I checked, you can't create a masculine looking character in Harvestella. It was a common criticism of the game during the marketing phase, as I recall.

Even when accounting for FFXIV, I've often found myself left wanting given the disproportionate amount of focus placed on androgynous and feminine hairstyles/outfits as opposed to traditionally masculine ones.

It definitely is more options. Usually you can only be he/she, and "they" is an added option. There's no reasonable argument to want less options in any character creator. My argument wasn't even about Harvestella "doing it right" or whatever. I merely pointed out that SE has done the pronoun thing before. Want more masculine options? Good, me too. More options is always better. I'm still waiting for the XIV guys to get some REAL proper beard options. Can think of anything else? Because it probably should be added too.

More options, always.