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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    We're being attacked more than ever before in society, and we need to be looked after as much as possible.
    We're being attacked more than ever because of posts like this. People were sympathetic when we were pointing out and trying to address real issues and just after basic rights and decency. With each non issue we try to put on the same level we burn that good will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychoEclipse View Post
    Nah, I think that objective, biological facts are MUCH more important than subjective beliefs that exists inside your own mind. Moreover, it would make no sense for many races to be hermaphrodites or asexual; it would be a bad written lore if implemented. I would like a race that is both or neither, but anything else is good as it is now.
    Biology SUPPORTS nonbinary identities. Educate yourself. Ova don’t make a woman, and sperm don’t make a man.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...is-not-binary/
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    Biology SUPPORTS nonbinary identities. Educate yourself. Ova don’t make a woman, and sperm don’t make a man.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...is-not-binary/
    Exactly and both sexes available have neither so by your definition are non binary, so we can move along now as you have your options :P

    Also not sure what the original link was to prove as she states she doesnt care what pronouns are used.
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 06-15-2023 at 10:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    Biology SUPPORTS nonbinary identities. Educate yourself. Ova don’t make a woman, and sperm don’t make a man.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...is-not-binary/
    There's something called "sex differentiation" and, even if the cells starts to form as an undifferentiated zygote, most animals will inevitably develop genetic expressions towards ONE biological sex. Excluding genetic mutations or malformations, humans are male or female, no exceptions. I'm not gonna talk about animals that are actually hermaphrodites, because we are talking about humans and not slugs, so its pointless to even start that topic. In the end, your sex is determined by several biological factors and your mere beliefs will NEVER change what you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychoEclipse View Post
    There's something called "sex differentiation" and, even if the cells starts to form as an undifferentiated zygote, most animals will inevitably develop genetic expressions towards ONE biological sex. Excluding genetic mutations or malformations, humans are male or female, no exceptions. I'm not gonna talk about animals that are actually hermaphrodites, because we are talking about humans and not slugs, so its pointless to even start that topic. In the end, your sex is determined by several biological factors and your mere beliefs will NEVER change what you are.
    Why does "what" someone is matter so much to you?

    What about those who do have ambiguous genitalia at birth? Are you going to force them to live the mold that a doctor has randomly assigned them instead of allowing them to develop into their own person?

    The world would be a better place if those obsessed with gender would turn their obsession over to fighting crime and violence instead of promoting it with their attacks on those who are different from what they demand they should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Why does "what" someone is matter so much to you?

    What about those who do have ambiguous genitalia at birth? Are you going to force them to live the mold that a doctor has randomly assigned them instead of allowing them to develop into their own person?

    The world would be a better place if those obsessed with gender would turn their obsession over to fighting crime and violence instead of promoting it with their attacks on those who are different from what they demand they should be.
    Demanding? I demand nothing. What others do to mess with their own lives is not my problem, but I'll always tell you objective facts about biology when I discuss such topics. I look at reality, not illusions; I don't care about what exists inside your own mind and your subjective experiences. I care about objective facts that are perceived in the same way for everyone, no matter what you believe. People with ambiguous genitalia have genetical issue that leads to physical deformations; their body didn't worked as it was supposed to do, leading to deformities that aren't supposed to be there. This can be a development, hormonal or gene issue and it have nothing to do with people that believes to be the opposite sex, yet there's no biological origin and their bodies have nothing wrong. Those few individuals with actual hormonal issues should be treated by giving them the right ones to compensate their deficiency, not messing up with their biological balance even more. Everyone should live as the sex their genetic expression have created, but evidently its easier for humans to believe to be something they are not instead of accepting reality.
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    Last edited by psychoEclipse; 06-16-2023 at 11:05 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    If you think the lives of nonbinary people depend on the customizable options of a fictional character which consists of pixels and digits, you have more serious issues to worry about.
    If we don't even get pixels and digits right, how can we build society right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    If we don't even get pixels and digits right, how can we build society right?
    Our Society will surely collapse when there are growing number of self-entitled narcisstic people who do all the demanding instead of contributing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    I agree completely with this as a non binary person myself. I also think any transphobic comments should be removed here by the moderators. LGBT+ topics are not bait, and it should be carefully monitored so that we don't grow these mindsets in the community. We're being attacked more than ever before in society, and we need to be looked after as much as possible.
    Thank you. The transphobia in these forums are alarming. Stay safe.
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    You're quite literally playing a gender fluid game even when it comes to clothing You're pretty free. This is the sort of thing that's been pushing us back the last several years. We don't need some small text in our character sheet no one is ever going to look at to validate us or to feel repressed. All it would do is generate more needles animosity doing more harm than good.
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