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    Ryan Shori
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    Just make "ZoomHack" view standard.

    As title suggests.
    World firsters caught multiple times using it proves even the "hardcore" need this ability.
    Us casual and midcore being held back because we dont use the hacks. Like take even just an EX fight - Mount Ordeals, it is literally INPOSSIBLE to see the arena floor and the symbols on the outside at the same time while playing on a standard resolution/aspect ratio.
    Devs just need increase the distance we can zoom out and we would be back on a level playing field.
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    Karuru Karu
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    I really don't like the approach of "make cheating legal so everyone is on the same level".

    But I have to agree that with the giant hitboxes and increased size of party buffs and bubbles - the camera is now relateviley less zoomed out than it was a few expansions ago.

    But that would also just start an arms race to make everything bigger again until you can barely see you character anymore...

    Best would be to scale everything back to a reasonable size.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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    Izayoi Niwa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shori View Post
    As title suggests.
    World firsters caught multiple times using it proves even the "hardcore" need this ability.
    Us casual and midcore being held back because we dont use the hacks. Like take even just an EX fight - Mount Ordeals, it is literally INPOSSIBLE to see the arena floor and the symbols on the outside at the same time while playing on a standard resolution/aspect ratio.
    Devs just need increase the distance we can zoom out and we would be back on a level playing field.
    They didn't use it, Shori, its part of one of the mechanics. It literally does that to you in game, which you can tell if you paid attention to the boss size and the size of the waymarkers.
    It's the game doing that, not any third party tools. Essentially, the dev team was poking fun at the drama from TOP in this fight.

    The boss shrinks your party, pulls the camera back and forces you to do mechanics zoomed out, it's by design and it happens periodically throughout the fight.
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    Last edited by Aniya_Estlihn; 06-01-2023 at 08:45 PM.

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    No it is not necessary for clearing content. What they used it for is birdseye view shotcalling (aka moon POV) with a 9th or 10th player in call, the latter being not an issue but benefitting massively from the former.

    Using Mount Ordealis EX as an example is poor imo. Even large size bosses such as Brute Justice dont even remotely need it. If you need more vision, move or turn your damn camera.

    Let's NOT normalise highly frowned-upon 3rd party tools such as zoom hack as features because the top echelon of raiders insist having an arms race abiut it. If you give us that, what will be next to be demanded as a feature? Where will we draw the line in the sand?
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    Needed? Nope, advantageous, yes. The two are not the same. People, especially on a competitive level will use them just because they can and it has an advantage, not because they need to.
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shori View Post
    As title suggests.
    World firsters caught multiple times using it proves even the "hardcore" need this ability.
    Us casual and midcore being held back because we dont use the hacks. Like take even just an EX fight - Mount Ordeals, it is literally INPOSSIBLE to see the arena floor and the symbols on the outside at the same time while playing on a standard resolution/aspect ratio.
    Devs just need increase the distance we can zoom out and we would be back on a level playing field.
    You don't need it to clear Ordeals EX. Not sure where that info came from.
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I really don't like the approach of "make cheating legal so everyone is on the same level".

    But I have to agree that with the giant hitboxes and increased size of party buffs and bubbles - the camera is now relateviley less zoomed out than it was a few expansions ago.

    But that would also just start an arms race to make everything bigger again until you can barely see you character anymore...

    Best would be to scale everything back to a reasonable size.
    You can just buy an ultra wide monitor and legally cheat since it gives you insane FoV
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    Cataleya Nigella
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    I've got a 34" wqhd Monitor. I See everything i'm afraid of the zoomhack mechanic in the second Phase auf P12s because everything will be so tiny xD
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    Henry Seger
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    I would be fine with a zoom increase to be honest, something like more 20% would be a game changer.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Damn, imagine getting baited by the devs themselves. Forum posters wish they had such power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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