Pandaemonium's Current Whereabouts (Anabaseious Spoilers)

[Cleretic]

There should be remnants of it in the First. Anamnesis Anyder somewhat survived so Pandemonium should be able to survive too.

That's only true if it's in Eorzea, though; if it's not, then it got wiped out by the Flood. And we went to most of Norvrandt's Eorzea equivalent locations.

So if it's in Eorzea (again, doubtful), it'd be in one of the areas we weren't: basically, the equivalents of Ala Mhigo, Xelphatol, or Abalathia's Spine.

[Kranel_San]

Seeing as how we're done with the Amaurot, and the devs love bringing back ancient civilizations every single expansion in one way or another (Cough cough, Allagan). I could see the actual Pandaemonium location in the modern day being a loose plot point that would be addressed in the future (Whehter on the source or the other shards) to bring back Amaurot and the ancients once again.

Unfortunately, I have full confidence that the devs will bring back the ancients and Amaurot again in 7.0. Somehow.

[RyuDragnier]

Plot twist, Pandaemonium is under Lea Monde and is the source of the dark magic like we saw in Vagrant Story.

This is a joke, don't hurt me.

[WhiteArchmage]

Plot twist, Pandaemonium is under Lea Monde and is the source of the dark magic like we saw in Vagrant Story.

This is a joke, don't hurt me.

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[Vyrerus]

Isn't the original Pandaemonium kind of in its own pocket dimension? That teleporter we take to get to it from Elpis seemed to take us into another reality where the very air was different from that of Elpis, after all. The sky there was dark stifling. My money would be on it being subterranean or in the Interdimensional Rift somewhere.

It's definitely a loose thread the writers are leaving themselves when they need a cheap and easy filler.

[RyuDragnier]

Isn't the original Pandaemonium kind of in its own pocket dimension? That teleporter we take to get to it from Elpis seemed to take us into another reality where the very air was different from that of Elpis, after all. The sky there was dark stifling. My money would be on it being subterranean or in the Interdimensional Rift somewhere.

It's definitely a loose thread the writers are leaving themselves when they need a cheap and easy filler.

It's part of why I joked about it being related to Lea Monde. That place in Vagrant Story was practically in a pocket dimension, and was a Genius Loci.

[Alleluia]

Isn't the original Pandaemonium kind of in its own pocket dimension? That teleporter we take to get to it from Elpis seemed to take us into another reality where the very air was different from that of Elpis, after all. The sky there was dark stifling. My money would be on it being subterranean or in the Interdimensional Rift somewhere.

It's definitely a loose thread the writers are leaving themselves when they need a cheap and easy filler.

Kind of an inverse of the Omphalos. Which makes sense with Pandamonium being the hell to the 12's heaven. Thematically speaking within the patch content, I mean; not that Panda is the actual 7 hells.

... Though apparently Athena does say the term "7 hells" at some point, so maybe there is some kind of connection between the facility and the myth of the 7 hells of the Twelve? I dunno.

[Cilia]

Kind of an inverse of the Omphalos. Which makes sense with Pandamonium being the hell to the 12's heaven. Thematically speaking within the patch content, I mean; not that Panda is the actual 7 hells.

... Though apparently Athena does say the term "7 hells" at some point, so maybe there is some kind of connection between the facility and the myth of the 7 hells of the Twelve? I dunno.

She says it as part of her incantation to cast [Theos's] Ultima, which is a callback to Lahabrea's casting of the spell after the first fight against the Ultima Weapon, both using the Heart of Sabik as a catalyst.

From the deepest pit of the seven hells to the very pinnacle of the heavens, the world shall tremble!

Given there's no true divinities in XIV's setting (that we know of, yet) and all souls return to the Underworld / Aetherial Sea / Lifestream, they really should know better, but that line was probably written before this much worldbuilding was done so...

On topic, like all remnants of Amaurotine civilization Pandaemonium was more than likely destroyed either in the Final Days or the Calamities on the Source. It might be possible to find some weathered ruins on some of the reflections, but despite their superior construction quality even Amaurot itself was in extreme disrepair on the First. Granted that was underwater, but even so.

[Cleretic]

On topic, like all remnants of Amaurotine civilization Pandaemonium was more than likely destroyed either in the Final Days or the Calamities on the Source. It might be possible to find some weathered ruins on some of the reflections, but despite their superior construction quality even Amaurot itself was in extreme disrepair on the First. Granted that was underwater, but even so.

Thinking about it, I'd actually say that Pandaemonium has an even lower chance of being intact than any other Ancient building, because it's specifically intended to house dangerous creatures. If something like the Phoinix or Hippokampos survives when the warders don't, it's only a matter of time until it breaks out and does some serious damage, to both the land and the building itself.

Hell, look at the Proto-Carbuncle's fight; that thing had already wrecked its confines. If there's even one thing in that castle that's on the Proto-Carbuncle's level after the sundering, I wouldn't just call Pandaemonium a write-off, I'd give up on a good several miles around it.

[Eloah]

My speculation is that Pandaemonium was where Labyrinthos currently is. It sorta makes sense, both are underground research facilities that are near the Underworld/Aetherial Sea. Plus Athena placing it there doesn't seem coincidental. I mean why not just create Pandaemonium in Azys Lla then.