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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    No. Hard no. There was a long cast bar for an action called "Barrier Shift". Then the boss acquired an elemental buff. There were multiple indicators for what to do. If people couldn't connect that to their damage being reflected when they didn't have the right element...
    Well as I previously said. I get this dungeon maybe once every six months. So I miss those buffs every time, and by the time I notice them, the fight is over and it'll be another six months before I need to think about it again.

    Admittedly I don't tend to look at enemy buffs a whole lot outside of EX/Savage, as they're not usually uniquely integral to the fight in casual content, and you can't 'hover over them' to see what they are on controller.

    The action name doesn't tell you anything, other than he's doing a thing. It's changing his elements sure, but does it change them to elements you're supposed to avoid or stand in?
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 06-01-2023 at 07:12 PM.

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    Iyrnthota's Avatar
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    Iyrnthota Sparrow
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    Spriggan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    You can partially thank the English team for this — which, as usual, mangled it into something needlessly more convoluted than it was in other languages.

    English:
    My cup runneth over with fire and lightning!

    JP:
    雷属性、火属性エーテル充填……
    バリアチェンジ!

    Lightning and fire ether are filled up...
    ...Barrier change!


    ...Why is the English in faux old English for some random Garlean guy engineered in a laboratory?

    Why is it using this strange and ambiguous phrase? It's just confusing at a glance — what cup? What is he talking about? What am I supposed to interpret from this? It's just such 14-year-old's Tumblr / DeviantArt "You know, I'm something of an author myself" pretentious fake depth.

    And it doesn't even mention the barrier part.
    Personally I don't find any issue with the English version. It requires some small deductive reasoning, but not too much I think.
    "Hey there's three elements, and the boss mentioned two of them, maybe I should be doing something with the third"
    Or hell, try doing something with the two he mentions and get killed. Should give you a good idea what to do next time just by process of elimination.
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    angienessyo's Avatar
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    Khulan Noir
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    That's odd, it wasn't exactly hard to look at the text for a split second to know where to go. It wasn't exactly Nael quotes in UCOB difficulty.
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    Derio's Avatar
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    All the old dungeons that got the trust treatment got dumbed down. Its very sad but understandable as they are building the game to be future proof. We will most likely see the same thing happen with trials come 7.0
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    It was the same in steps of faith og. The npcs told you what to do for the fight but people never read the hints so it was "hard"
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    undull1's Avatar
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    Momori Mori
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    Twintania
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    Red Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    It was the same in steps of faith og. The npcs told you what to do for the fight but people never read the hints so it was "hard"
    Steps of faith I can forgive because replaying it was an utter slog.

    Castrum abania is such a poor decision though, god forbid a player gets a vuln stack and forces healers to play their job.

    If they have the resources to tamper and tinker with old content then how about fixing up some of the bad Alexander raids or making a normal roulette playable version of coils?
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    GTK0HLK's Avatar
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    Selene Halflight
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    If they needed to change it..,
    It should of been to make the pillars stay static, and make the Trusts/Support stand in the correct spots. With the occasional wrong NPC taking it for the team.
    But only for the Trusts/Support.

    The Game doesn't have much to teach players to follow/pay attention to changes that suddenly get dropped on them.
    [While the lack of teaching moments aren't causing grave damage, it is a loss to Basic Competency.]
    <I miss OG Coincounter..,>
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Are you talking about the boss that would say, "My cup runneth with [element 1] and [element 2]"?

    Why TF did they change that?
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I liked the mech. And my guess is less that it wasn't something they could get Trusts to do but more that it wasn't following the consistency they've been trying to establish with mechanic triggers.

    That said, nobody was doing it anyway so they may have seen that too and that helped them decide to pitch it.
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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if dungeons were a bit different depending on whether you were playing with Duty Support/Trust vs. other players.

    [EW spoiler]:

    For example, the Lv.89 trial starts you out with the "Willful" buff only when you play with Duty Support.
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