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    Visual noise in battle content

    I've taken a break from the game for various content related reasons, and when coming back to play through 6.4 content the amount of visual noise in encounters designed is very apparent, specifically 'The Twelfth Circle'.

    Mechanically the battle isn't difficult but to actually see tells through spell effects combined with those of the boss frankly just make my eyes sore. This isn't good design, and has been a mounting problem that finally has reached a point where it has become a negative experience.

    ....and yes, I have had other players spell effects turned off for years. This shouldn't be a requirement to actually see the battle in the first place.
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    I will say that a couple battles like 12th and Nophica have so much visual clutter I ask myself "Is this really necessary?"
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    Wren Blackwing
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    This is especially a problem in PvP.
    "What killed me? I couldn't see anything under the 50 player particle effects. I will turn these off in order to be able to see the fight and coordinate myself properly."
    "What killed me? I couldn't see anything because I turned off player particle effects in order to not be flashbanged, and now all projectiles and enemy attacks are invisible."
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    Asuka Kirai
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    I've heard nothing but bad things about the visual noise in P12.

    I think my only bad experience has been back when I tried Eden's Verse (Savage), and I wouldn't say it was noise, maybe unnecessary, but from an accessibility standpoint (and I don't mean difficulty, as it was fine in that department) - It's like they've had occasions where they've decided to learn about what would be good practice or what would be considered good practice and just veered in the complete opposite direction.

    Can't say I've really cared about raids at all since then - If I do them it's because I have nothing better to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    Mechanically the battle isn't difficult but to actually see tells through spell effects combined with those of the boss frankly just make my eyes sore.

    ....and yes, I have had other players spell effects turned off for years.
    You say it's hard to see the tells through player spells effects, but also that you have player spell effects turned off. So which is it? I find it very hard to believe that only your spell effects are completely obfuscating the entire arena at all times.

    I only turn player effects to the reduced option during raids and it's not a problem at all even as a melee. What specific spells are causing the issue people are describing?
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    Thalia Beckford
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    I think the saving grace in P12 is that the mechs give you enough time to react before they go off so you can still scoot out of the way. It doesn't bother me too much (it may be worse for non-tanks) but I can definitely see where there is more visual noise even from my perspective usually as MT.
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    I cringe when I see multiple summoners in a party, especially if I'm on a melee job, because I know I'm gonna be leaving the fight with sore eyes.
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    Ayer Austen
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    I cringe when I see multiple summoners in a party, especially if I'm on a melee job, because I know I'm gonna be leaving the fight with sore eyes.
    I'm sure the fact I'm maining SMN this xpac doesn't help matters, true.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Set party animations to Limited. You're welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Set party animations to Limited. You're welcome.
    Literally stated I have been doing that for years in the OP
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