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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghutts View Post
    Which is SUPER pointless cuz no they're not gay. They're not real. They're made up cartoons for a videogame. They have no lives, no inner thoughts, no desires or dreams and aspirations. They quite literally cannot be gay because they aren't real and possess no Free Will. They are a representation of the artists intentions and goals for that said character. The artist might be gay, but cartoon drawings can't be and aren't.

    Edit : I'm starting to get a little concerned that humans in general are losing touch with reality in an attempt to escape from the drudgery of existence. But allowing ones self to devolve into having emotions for, against, or about cartoon/videogame characters is highly disturbing. THEY AREN'T REAL.
    Uh huh. Except, y'know, in the context of the story that those characters exist in? They're gay. You being mad about it doesn't actually change it.
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  2. #122
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    I'm an LGBT ally, but I don't think it has any place in this game. And it isn't just because it is a game. If we want to talk about equality, then we shouldn't place value on "who we love." As a Warrior of Light, does it matter what my sexual orientation is? I can be a hero and be gay, straight, white, black, etc etc. When we point out these differences, we also highlight these differences. We shouldn't define ourselves by these traits. These traits have no bearing on our ability to save Eorzea. That's why I don't think the game needs a pride event.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghutts View Post
    Which is SUPER pointless cuz no they're not gay. They're not real. They're made up cartoons for a videogame. They have no lives, no inner thoughts, no desires or dreams and aspirations. They quite literally cannot be gay because they aren't real and possess no Free Will. They are a representation of the artists intentions and goals for that said character. The artist might be gay, but cartoon drawings can't be and aren't.

    Edit : I'm starting to get a little concerned that humans in general are losing touch with reality in an attempt to escape from the drudgery of existence. But allowing ones self to devolve into having emotions for, against, or about cartoon/videogame characters is highly disturbing. THEY AREN'T REAL.
    Queer representation in media matters, whether it's fiction or non-fiction. Period.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayHealer View Post
    If you think going to a gay pride is fighting for equality and again oppression, then you are sadly deluding yourself.

    You are just going to a street party, nothing more, nothing less.
    Wrong. It means so much more.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    I'm an LGBT ally, but I don't think it has any place in this game. And it isn't just because it is a game. If we want to talk about equality, then we shouldn't place value on "who we love." As a Warrior of Light, does it matter what my sexual orientation is? I can be a hero and be gay, straight, white, black, etc etc. When we point out these differences, we also highlight these differences. We shouldn't define ourselves by these traits. These traits have no bearing on our ability to save Eorzea. That's why I don't think the game needs a pride event.
    You're not an ally with that sentiment.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    You're not an ally with that sentiment.
    Considering the community has done so much to politicize "pride" and "pride month" (a minority group demanding special privileges not afforded to others is most definitely political), it could be argued that it'd be in violation of their own policies against promoting "real-life political groups, religious organizations, or business entities". "You're not an ally with that sentiment" binary-level thinking is divisive - the kind of sentiment that the FFXIV team doesn't seem to want to engage in with this issue.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts View Post
    Considering the community has done so much to politicize "pride" and "pride month" (a minority group demanding special privileges not afforded to others is most definitely political), it could be argued that it'd be in violation of their own policies against promoting "real-life political groups, religious organizations, or business entities". "You're not an ally with that sentiment" binary-level thinking is divisive - the kind of sentiment that the FFXIV team doesn't seem to want to engage in with this issue.
    Human rights are not political. Stop the dog whistling.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    Queer representation in media matters, whether it's fiction or non-fiction. Period.
    I'm offended by your Queer Apporpriation
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    The other side isn't going anywhere either.
    Yes they will because the younger generation will replace your outdated mentality.
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    Yes they will because the younger generation will replace your outdated mentality.
    Good for them. I'll be to old and or dead to care anymore.
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