r/ffxivdiscussion: What can Square Enix do to help fix the terrible netcode of FFXIV?

[Fiel_Tana]

Not really. If you play WoW or other MMO's it would do the exact same thing as that video you posted. This is just how general networking works. In shooters they use a higher tick rate (sometimes) and use background checks server side to update information and basically take a guess on the players position. Its why sometimes you die when you were clearly behind a wall. Latency is a thing and it will always be nearly impossible to completely hide it regardless of how fast internet connections get. This games netcode isn't anywhere near as bad as people make it out to be.

Are you meaning to reply to someone else because I didn't post a video. Also I have played WoW and many other MMOs and no, they do not have the same issues FFXIV does that are being talked about in this thread. Occasional lag and even rubberbanding at times, yes, that is often the connection between player and server or at times a slow computer. What is being talked about here are entirely different issues.

[DayHealer]

Why is this a problem again? Unless you play PvP?

[GaiusDrakon]

They were willing to pay "above market price" for new servers.

Lol? People actually believe this?

[Mosha]

Lol? People actually believe this?

during COVID? yeah, server parts had a huge demand and a fall-off in production,

[Denji]

Lol? People actually believe this?

bro a raspberry pi 4* costs 200-300 bucks rn and car companies were buying brand new washing machines just to rip out the guts because they had compatible chips.
i got a low-end education laptop for a hundred bucks back in december because every store mass-ordered thousands of them because people needed to work from home and when all the back orders were finally fulfilled there was a flood of extra-crappy laptops on the market. i also bought an AC just a couple days ago that's -entirely- mechanical. the most recent piece of tech in it is the green LED followed by the brushless motor in the fan.
it was bad. really bad. they weren't the only company that were in actual bidding wars just for hardware and we're still in the thick of it. it'll be a few years before things go back to normal.

[GaiusDrakon]

bro a raspberry pi 4* costs 200-300 bucks rn and car companies were buying brand new washing machines just to rip out the guts because they had compatible chips.
i got a low-end education laptop for a hundred bucks back in december because every store mass-ordered thousands of them because people needed to work from home and when all the back orders were finally fulfilled there was a flood of extra-crappy laptops on the market. i also bought an AC just a couple days ago that's -entirely- mechanical. the most recent piece of tech in it is the green LED followed by the brushless motor in the fan.
it was bad. really bad. they weren't the only company that were in actual bidding wars just for hardware and we're still in the thick of it. it'll be a few years before things go back to normal.

Yes because I work in IT and we experienced the same problem. It was impossible to get any kind of server hardware. New cisco 9000 series switches were over 12 months out for availability and the only way to get one was to pay way over market price. Same with servers and practically everything else. We had to go after refurbed dell servers to get our new network up and running because it was all we had access to.

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The market price went up because there's a shortage... no one calls that going "above the market price". Do you people not believe in supply and demand or some shit lmao

[caffe_macchiato]

A ton of people are okay with the net code as-is. We’ve integrated the lag into our strats, such as managing “snapshots” and “slide casting”. People have made numerous illegal third-party tools that include features like assisted slidecasting, calling out mechanics to prevent snapshotting, drawing maps on the ground, and packet-sniffing to alter server calls. And because most FFXIV players support the modding community (“it doesn’t affect anyone! Who cares!”) people will generally be okay with the game. Because it’s only bearable when people cheat. Of course, Square knows this, and they don’t give a shit. FFXIV has a plug-in architecture that runs circles around most online games despite being “prohibited”. No one cares. Just consume the product.

Suffice to say, Blizzard went from an indie developer to part of one of the world’s largest and wealthiest entertainment companies in history on the back of a single MMO with good net code. Square Enix is falling apart at the seams despite four major MMOs and two of the OG RPG brands. There’s a reason why that is. People won’t care until they look at the past ten years they’ve wasted in this laggy cesspit and realize they’ve gained nothing of value.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

I've seen entire threads on reddit about nothing other than the irony of just how massive and robust this games mod community is...for a game that technically doesn't allow so much as chat bubbles. It's mindblowing.

I dont agree the SE is falling apart at the seams though lol.

[Mosha]

I couldn't agree with you more. I've seen entire threads on reddit about nothing other than the irony of just how massive and robust this games mod community is...for a game that technically doesn't allow so much as chat bubbles. It's mindblowing.

There is a plugin that allows you to click a button on a website and it will automatically download and install the mod during runtime lmao. It's crazy how developed modding FFXIV is these days.

Turning off the game to install a mod isn't part of the optimal rotation it seems.

[Saraide]

People won’t care until they look at the past ten years they’ve wasted in this laggy cesspit and realize they’ve gained nothing of value.

Talking from personal experience?