So, I had an idea about roulettes

[Vandso]

Alright, so imagine this:

Duty Roulette: Leveling (Beginner) -> ARR and HW Dungeons
Duty Roulette: Leveling (Intermediate) -> STB and SHB Dungeons
Duty Roulette: Alliance Raids (Beginner) -> Crystal Tower and Shadow of Mhach
Duty Roulette: Alliance Raids (Intermediate) -> Return to Ivalice and YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse

Leveling and Alliance Roulettes are split in two: one for the first expansions and one for the later ones (but not the last one). Furthermore, Main Scenario Roulettes are turned into solo duties and the beginner roulettes are the ones who give the big Poetics reward. Also, rework Coils to add them to Normal Raids.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Alright, so imagine this:

Duty Roulette: Leveling (Beginner) -> ARR and HW Dungeons
Duty Roulette: Leveling (Intermediate) -> STB and SHB Dungeons
Duty Roulette: Alliance Raids (Beginner) -> Crystal Tower and Shadow of Mhach
Duty Roulette: Alliance Raids (Intermediate) -> Return to Ivalice and YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse

Leveling and Alliance Roulettes are split in two: one for the first expansions and one for the later ones (but not the last one). Furthermore, Main Scenario Roulettes are turned into solo duties and the beginner roulettes are the ones who give the big Poetics reward. Also, rework Coils to add them to Normal Raids.

I think the only issue with this is older MMOs like XIV will eventually end up in a spot where the population is heavily tilted towards higher levels, leaving beginner roulettes in low-population and longer que times.

Of course I'm always bored when in my 80's I end up in a level 20 dungeon, and also bored with 80% Crystal Tower, but I imagine that may be why they keep it like this.

[UkcsAlias]

I think the only issue with this is older MMOs like XIV will eventually end up in a spot where the population is heavily tilted towards higher levels, leaving beginner roulettes in low-population and longer que times.

As long as f2p exists, anything up to lvl 60 will always be decently populated. The f2p system in this game is what makes old content healthy in population.

Its mostly lvl 70 and 80 content that lacks players. And currently the situation is worse since a lot of higher level players are sucked away towards that low level content, causing queues to explode in times. But that roulette can obviously also contain the lvl 90 roulettes in them. Splitting the roulettes will on that give players more motivation to take the harder roulettes (especialy when the lvl 50/60 ones arent going to give any proper awards anymore - as for example it only has to give poetics and none of the other tomestones).

For the dungeons the situation isnt too bad though, as there its just groups of 4 people. But for the raids its 24, and it takes only 1 person to do an ilvl cheese to force a certain raid (they realy should set a minimum ilvl on these raids). Splitting them will prevent the need for people to ilvl cheese (or they will only do that for the lvl 50/60 raids), and therefor help the lvl 70 and 80 ones in popularity.

And its not like you realy need to face that content too often. You are going to get a certain raid once per 9 days on average. Its not going to become as dull as quickly. Probably in this case the lvl 90 raids pushing that number even lower. And that is fine, that they show up is more important than to have it entirely balanced. Once per 2 weeks for each of the old raids is enough to spice things up a bit.

The current roulette however... be happy if you get something other than CT as 90% of the time its those.

[Sir_Tonberry]

I think the only issue with this is older MMOs like XIV will eventually end up in a spot where the population is heavily tilted towards higher levels, leaving beginner roulettes in low-population and longer que times.

Of course I'm always bored when in my 80's I end up in a level 20 dungeon, and also bored with 80% Crystal Tower, but I imagine that may be why they keep it like this.

If SE really wanted to they could fix this problem by giga buffing the rewards from mentor roulette as in give them more mounts/minions/glams. Perhaps even overhaul the mentor roulette system and just make the roulette accessible by players at cap.

[Boblawblah]

I guess my question would be, why?

[ZephyrMenodora]

I guess my question would be, why?

I'm guessing some people are tired of ARR dungeons and getting CT raids every day. I know I am - the number of times I get anything Stormblood - Endwalker while levelling is miniscule, so I'm stuck levelling with a small portion of my play kit a lot of the time.

Not saying this would be a great change, but I can see why some may like this.

[Ransu]

I'm guessing some people are tired of ARR dungeons and getting CT raids every day. I know I am - the number of times I get anything Stormblood - Endwalker while levelling is miniscule, so I'm stuck levelling with a small portion of my play kit a lot of the time.

Not saying this would be a great change, but I can see why some may like this.

So stop doing the roulette's every day? If you're leveling just run the highest dungeon. Roulettes really are not worth it.

[ZephyrMenodora]

So stop doing the roulette's every day? If you're leveling just run the highest dungeon. Roulettes really are not worth it.

Running highest level dungeon takes forever to wait for as a DPS. The trusts are too slow and boring to me also and not my cup of tea.

XP and money rewards are still nice running these daily even with an unlucky chain of more boring dungeons/raids. Sometimes I do get a higher level dungeon or raid and while less common, I do have actual fun then.

I'm also not the person asking for the change. For me the rewards vs. cost (usually boredom) is still worth it, or I'd already have stopped.

[ForteNightshade]

Running highest level dungeon takes forever to wait for as a DPS. The trusts are too slow and boring to me also and not my cup of tea.

XP and money rewards are still nice running these daily even with an unlucky chain of more boring dungeons/raids. Sometimes I do get a higher level dungeon or raid and while less common, I do have actual fun then.

I'm also not the person asking for the change. For me the rewards vs. cost (usually boredom) is still worth it, or I'd already have stopped.

Try popping over to Aether. I recently blitzed an alt through the MSQ and have grinded several jobs on her back when I still had the Road to 80 buff. Longest I waited was ten minutes for any of the ShB or EW dungeons.

Just to comment on what Ransu said, I'll note that Roulettes are actually pretty bad for EXP. Leveling is only good if you get a dungeon in the same expansion your level range is or one previous. So if you're 85, then Holminster Switch or higher. Any other dungeon is a decent loss in EXP. Alliance is only okay because CT is fast, albeit it very boring. Trial/Normal are fine if you get ARR/Gordias but anything current isn't worth the EXP.

Of course this is purely for efficiency sake.

What is good EXP though that most people forget about are daily hunts. EW hunts give you roughly 3M passive EXP per day. Between that and the Elephants, it's half a level per day for very little investment.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I'm guessing some people are tired of ARR dungeons and getting CT raids every day. I know I am - the number of times I get anything Stormblood - Endwalker while levelling is miniscule, so I'm stuck levelling with a small portion of my play kit a lot of the time.

Not saying this would be a great change, but I can see why some may like this.

Meanwhile I've stopped doing leveling roulette because it's always Ktisis Hyperboreia or Aitiascope lately. Anecdotal, yes, I know, but in the last few months, I've had two Shadowbringers dungeons and the rest were all Endwalker, usually those two.