RPR changes please?

[thearizonakid]

Howdy ho,

I play a lot of PvP and RPR is basically my main, looking to go into the regional championship with it. It's a really fun class to play and I love playing it. The recent changes though have made it feel kinda weird.

It's been mentioned before, but the changes to Soul Reaver feels really odd. I put in a lot of hours to RPR's rotation and one of the most fun things about it was this constant level of pressure you could put on single targets. In the same vein that MNK could terrify any Healer or Ranged, RPR was sort of a safer option, with a bit more kit to make it different. Yet now, with the loss of the 8k potency from the Gallows, as well as the loss of the GCD, it feels a bit weird to run the rotation.

Considering the number of counters that can come up when a Reaper puts out a Death Warrant on a target, it made sense that it would have a higher return if the Reaper got it right. If the Reaper played the rotation correctly, you could have a really high return number on that Death Warrant, while also maintaining pressure immediately afterwards when you entered the filler. Especially if you added in the LB, it was a terrifying thing to deal with.

I think the idea of giving RPR more AoE potential is a solid one, as DRG in general can run circles around it in terms of it's AoE potential. However, with just the one Guillotine, in the parts of the filler rotation, it feels substantially weaker. I've only ever noticed a significant amount of damage potential with the Grim Swathe > Guillotine whenever LB comes up, and while that is frequent, it isn't enough to boost the numbers to where a DRG could, especially since DRG can just use their LB and potentially wipe the entire group.

If we could at least get that extra Soul Reaver back with the additional Guillotine, I think that would fix a lot of the problems RPR was experiencing at the current moment. Even if it was to revert back to where it was, it could still be a pretty decent option for single target combat, as well as the utility of Tenebrae Lemurum. The changes have really taken a decent part of the flow that RPR had and it's a little disappointing, even though it's not the worst thing.

[Bloodthrone]

This was a weird one, and I have to consider this an unnecessary nerf. I mean we were already struggling with the damage output to begin with then they do this? It's mind boggling!

[Hik3n]

Bard was so OP they made it unusable, killed its synergy, and look how they removed another Frontline Map, and we got a change in the one that was decent before and they made it a PVE map, after all they did in this patch, i don't see how SQ is capable of making PVP in this game anything good. With every patch they make PVP more and more horrible than it was, and remove more and more maps and mods. We had team PVP that you can play with friends, they removed it, we had tournaments in said mod, removed it, we had more Frontline maps, now they removed one more and destroyed the one that was playable at least, they balance the entire PVP for Crystalline and do a terrible job doing so, and the most hilarious thing about this is the tournament they want to do on Fanfest, a team tournament in a mod that has no party option to begin with... genius. So i don't expect anything at this point from PVP, this patch they nerfed jobs that had no need for one, and buffed the ones that where already good.

[Archeron]

The real thing that needs to happen is that we need a PvP dev team, and director who do nothing but PvP related changes.

Every single patch we've had nonsensical changes, nerfs, and adjustments that were completely unwarranted, and nobody asked for. These could have only been done by an out of touch team, and it will only continue even if they listen to our feedback on rare occassions.

[Runeslayer]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again; Reaper is NOT an AoE fighter, it excels in getting the single target picks and chasing down people who need finishing off. They are piss poor in the team brawl outside very specific conditions like: you have 8 stacks for plentiful harvest, no one has defensives, and you can LB right afterward for a fat communio. These moments are rewards for picking off the competition one at a time and peeling for your team, NOT the primary gameplan.

The fact that they think changing to guillotine with half the damage would somehow benefit reaper is laughable, equally laughable that they might have thought the nerf was warranted. I wasn't sure about the change at first, but after playing with it for a while I can no longer reliably close out kills as I could before. That last 8,000 potency and extra GCD was EVERYTHING for maintaining pressure. The intended effect of being able to hit more people changes almost nothing; I can't even hit more than one player with it the majority of times because reaper is kitted for taking players who are out of position, killing them, then TPing back to friendly lines.

Reaper needed buffs, or failing that they could have just stayed as is. Instead, we received a change from a dev that has no inkling of knowledge on the class itself. Par for the course it seems, because I still remember the huge backlash about kaiten and they tripled down on it.