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  1. #41
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    dspguy's Avatar
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    When I read "content creation" I thought the OP might the developers - not third party (like streamers, youtubers, etc).

    I'd say... almost never. But maybe I'm an older gamer that just doesn't find much value in content derived from a video game. Back when I raided, I would watch the extreme/savage guides by Mizztek and HrHappy. That's about it.
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  2. #42
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    Ffxiv requires a certain degree of commitment that mostly 'content creators' are no capable of. Majority of them just constantly break promises and expect easy content. You MUST be creative to draw content from FFXIV and have two or three talents.


    + = How you can be
    - = You should avoid
    +- = Questionable

    Good ones

    +Zepla
    Used to produce unique videos, guides and parodies in the past (Kugane for example). She tried to do most of the content in-game (including Ultimates) burned herself out. Left for a while. Now she is cute...and laugh. That's all. People like her because they like her personality but....its been awhile since she produced anything new.
    For some reason, she changed how she acts and talk after Asmongold, for some reason, as his own fans say, she is/was like a female version of Asmongold...just weird.

    +Xenosys
    Makes himself as a meme and have no shame, interesting takes on tanks and healers problems, explain mechanics without any problem. However, he is a hardcore player and will complain about stuff that is beyond his realm "Euprhosyne is easy, they should at least increase iLVL". No, they shouldn't, a hardcore raider wouldn't use ally raids to equip himself. Different niches.

    +Arthars
    It's just like old uncle of Xenos that plays WoW occasionally. Both has good humor tho.

    +CiderSpider
    Mad because small made him famous, expanded that model and created guides. A good example of charisma and creativity.

    +BennQ
    Animated imaginative scenarios. Many good takes. Same as EorzeanReaper (more like meme-oriented), Cheese Goblin and others. They always make me smile.

    +Synodic Scribe
    Interesting way to show lore and explore conceptual stuff. Unironically we lack this kind of content.

    +Jeathebelle
    Transparent, clear communication, decent humor.

    +Cobrak
    Decent voice acting with his gf, honest.

    +Preach
    Decent voice acting, immersive experience, humor on point, collaborative and creative FC, hosted the first Championship of Crystal Conflict, the best SHB experience.

    now the bad ones

    -Pyromancer
    Rage and backstab

    -MrHappy
    Rage and backstab

    -Rin
    Rage, backstab and do anything for attention or success

    -Asmongold
    An egocentric personality that was smashed by PotD and Alex. Tried to go Stormblood, quitting in the middle with a weird excuse. No commitment at all. Mcconnel was present in one of the last lives and said bad stuff about FFXIV community, he just stands there and laugh together.
    That event happened after he promised that he would play and just reacted for 5 hours and said "oh no, we have no time left", this thing happened THREE times. It's planned.
    A troll, grew up children that can't understand why he made so much success. Same stuff happened in multiple occasions and games.

    -Richwcampbell
    Forced reactions, liar, stall and worse.

    -Grinding Gears
    Forced reactions, stall like Rich, the type of channel that do 1 msq in 8 hours. Intentionally jumps around the npc to make you waste your time.

    -GingerGaming
    Forced reactions, backstab, liar.

    Questionable

    +-PINT
    PINT does amazing video editing and creation, however, during streams...seems like he is really distracted by anything going on and don't take most of the stuff serious, breaking immersion.
    I can't say how honest he is, depends of you.

    +-Nobbel
    Is't immersive at all, constant jokes and singing during relevant moments, add some stall.


    Tldr: most of content creators just go in and expect to play the MSQ and see their viewership going up.
    They stall and lie as much as they can to keep the attention going on. However, one day, such attention will leave when you finish the MSQ.
    You need to be creative to do more stuff or have some talents/abilities to keep people around you.


    I believe there is more bad ones than good, unfortunately.
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    Last edited by Elissar; 05-31-2023 at 01:42 AM. Reason: Add shame list, final version.

  3. #43
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    I noticed Zepla started talking like Asmon too, glad someone else mentioned it because I thought I was going crazy at first. It's like she picked up his candence with the way she talks, it's weird. I dont' care for Xenos, he made several hour long videos about Pyro and the drama with him is so lame and boring. Why do we need 2 hour+ videos on the subject?? I liked Asmon in the beginnging but then he started to annoy me for some reason. Rn the only person I like is Pint and UhhOlivia.

    Honestly most FFXIV content creators aren't really that interesting and too many have huge egos for no reason.
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    Last edited by OceanWater; 06-03-2023 at 04:30 AM.

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanWater View Post
    I noticed Zepla started talking like Asmon too, glad someone else mentioned it because I thought I was going crazy at first. It's like she picked up his candence with the way she talks, it's weird. I dont' care for Xenos, he made several hour long videos about Pyro and the drama with him is so lame and boring. Why do we need 2 hour+ videos on the subject?? I liked Asmon in the beginnging but then he started to annoy me for some reason. Rn the only person I like is Pint and UhhOlivia.

    Honestly most FFXIV content creators aren't really that interesting and too many have huge egos for no reason.
    Funny enough, xenos doesn't care about the drama either. He openly says it in his own video that this stuff brings in the views otherwise he wouldn't watch any of pyros stuff.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Funny enough, xenos doesn't care about the drama either. He openly says it in his own video that this stuff brings in the views otherwise he wouldn't watch any of pyros stuff.
    I can't really fault him for that. For better or for worse, the drama is what brings the retention audience in. It works and it's why most of the content creators have gone to react/drama creators at the expense of those they cover. It sells and that's where the money is these days because the other stuff doesn't work as well anymore.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    -MrHappy
    Rage and backstab
    Tell me more
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  7. #47
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    I make stupid videos when I'm bored.
    People who do it for profit are, imo, tacky.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remish View Post
    I can't really fault him for that. For better or for worse, the drama is what brings the retention audience in. It works and it's why most of the content creators have gone to react/drama creators at the expense of those they cover. It sells and that's where the money is these days because the other stuff doesn't work as well anymore.



    No effort maximum profit. Sounds about right.
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  9. #49
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    I think most video game content creators are pretty uncreative, immature, and boring. That summer where a ton of WoW content creators tried FFXIV showed how the majority of them had sophomoric senses of humor and were pretty ignorant whenever their stream of conscious rambling veered away from talking about their immediate gaming experience.
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    I've had the occasion to play with streamers such as Asmongold, and Esfand in a certain other, MMORPG we don't dare name.

    Asmongold was very unremarkable. He didn't interact with others very often, he seemed disinterested in the game. Esfand on the other hand was constantly helping people out, answering questions in public chats, overall nice guy.

    I'm not shocked that Asmongold didn't stick around. I get the impression that he doesn't enjoy this genre of gaming very much either. I probably also wouldn't enjoy it if it were my job, and I constantly had people following me around and criticizing my every action, and telling me what I should/shouldn't do. The right decision for him was to quit playing the game, especially if he was as uninterested in it as I suspect he was.

    The good streamers for this game, or any game in general are the ones who play FFXIV because they enjoy it, not because their audiences will shill out subs and donations for it.
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