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  1. #61
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    Remember_The_Name's Avatar
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    Caroline Frost
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post


    L M A O

    What the actual hell? That's what no item level sync does to the game. And with people gearing up to 660 Ilvl, the integrity of the fight will be out of the window. I imagine, some time later, new players will be seeing Nald'Thal "scale" mechanic only in the guide videos at this point.
    And, what is a hundred times worse, people will start to think that killing the boss before she tosses her 2nd "enrage" at the party is actually an intended design. Dear Lord...

    Just checked, min Ilvl Endsinger player HP are (exact numbers depends on the job):

    Tank: 65-68k
    Healer: 40-41k
    DPS: 40-45k

    And the fight actually starts to be somewhat interesting. Planets takes out 90% of squishy hp, at least.
    Now compare to this clown fiesta on your screenshot. What a sick and unfun joke of a design.

    "JuSt MaKe a PaRtY FinDeR wItH miN ItEm LevEl!"

    Great advise that 99% of first timers will surely follow.

    SE, this cannot continue...
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    Last edited by Remember_The_Name; 07-03-2023 at 09:14 AM.

  2. #62
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    Minali Flo'uf
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    Twintania
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Remember_The_Name View Post
    What the actual hell? That's what no item level sync does to the game. And with people gearing up to 660 Ilvl, the integrity of the fight will be out of the window. I imagine, some time later, new players will be seeing Nald'Thal "scale" mechanic only in the guide videos at this point.
    And, what is a hundred times worse, people will start to think that killing the boss before she tosses her 2nd "enrage" at the party is actually an intended design. Dear Lord...
    "Wait what, a Tank LB3 thing? Has this mechanic always been here?"
    - someone playing it in 2025 with 7 first timers, probably

    Btw, if the team is good enough/well geared enough, it is already possible to skip the scales at Nald'Thal. Haven't experienced it myself yet, but heard it from a few friends. It's absurd.
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  3. #63
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    Lufir's Avatar
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    Lufir Lumini
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Yea as someone who got the EW final trial through roulette, this definitely needs to be toned down so first timers can experience how epic the finale is supposed to be.
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  4. #64
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Minali View Post
    "Wait what, a Tank LB3 thing? Has this mechanic always been here?"
    - someone playing it in 2025 with 7 first timers, probably
    That comment is already viable for normal content. LBs are almost exclusively for DPS, only in alliance raids its sometimes for healers. We dont need to wait until 2025 for that.

    Tank lbs are only relevant in extreme/savage like content. Which most players wont even play until they are in the endgame
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  5. #65
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    Minali Flo'uf
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    That comment is already viable for normal content. LBs are almost exclusively for DPS, only in alliance raids its sometimes for healers. We dont need to wait until 2025 for that.

    Tank lbs are only relevant in extreme/savage like content. Which most players wont even play until they are in the endgame
    Maybe I worded my post a bit misleading. I was specifically talking about the final 6.0 trial, not all duties in general. I was implying when everyone is massively overgeared players would be able to skip the tank LB alltogether, making it a bigger surprise than usual when it does come up after all. Obviously it's a bit of an exaggeration considering that part of the fight is probably mandatory and would still happen with the boss being at 0.1% health.
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  6. #66
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    TheGrimace's Avatar
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    People need to inform them of this at Fan Fest. Assuming they don't already know. Because they don't exactly keep in contact with us outside of Live Letters and stuff nowadays, and that's always one-sided anyway.
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  7. #67
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I actually hold back on DPS when I get the 6.0 last MSQ trial because of this. They need ilvl caps on some current, and most older, things in the game
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

  8. #68
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Yeah, i got one of these(6.0 conclusion trial) in roulette the other day. The 2 lowest HP totals in the group were both tanks. We had a bonus, but no one said anything and one of them immediately pulled once the fence dropped so it was never confirmed if these were alts or genuine first-timers. Still, just in case i might have played a bit slow compared to normal. It was late, i was tired, impossible to say. But considering that we actually did get to hear the entire song once, i might not have been the only one. And the fight ended more or less exactly with the song. I cast my vote for a better sync on these.
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  9. #69
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    Gullis Hil
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    reworked Ascian prime feels like a savage boss compared to Thordan now

    As a tank, I'm not even sure its possible to die to thordan. I tried soaking literary everything, but still didn't get close to dying, although thordan was always a joke

    they don't have to make the fights hit harder necessarily,but at least make them last enough to where you feel you were fighting something at least. I know when I did msq first time, I was super dissapointed at certain fights ending before I even got to hear the entire fight theme.
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    Last edited by Gullis; 07-06-2023 at 08:23 PM.

  10. #70
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I helped a friend for their first time in Endsinger trial not long ago. The boss skips to adds phase just when she introduce the rewind mechanic for first time. Additionally on last phase, the 5th scion didn’t even get to finish their speech before she dies lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gullis View Post
    As a tank, Im not even sure its possible to die to thordan. I tried soaking litterary everything, but still didn't get close to dying-
    In Thordan trial, my favorite thing to do is to scare my (co)healer by pressing anti-kb and eat the proximity marker point blank bonus point if they get to see their own Rescue misses.
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