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  1. #31
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Most players in old expansion content are roulette players who want to knock it over in 1 go.
    Giving bosses more health, while not increasing its damage will still make them beat it in 1 go, but will also ensure that all phases can be executed. For the sake of simplicity they could even give fixed tresholds with an invuln (or very high resistance) to avoid too quick deaths. Not everything needs to be scaled up, but skipping a phase entirely just shouldnt happen.
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  2. #32
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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Come on now, being able to skip phases is better fight design than “well we’re 40 seconds in, time for towers”. And it’s certainly better design than when the boss hits 0.1% /probably 1hp and just sits there for ages because you just have to see this mechanic. This isn’t saying that we’re necessarily doing appropriate amounts of damage, but just that enforced phases sounds like the most frustrating path that could be taken.
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  3. #33
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    Mai Sakurajimaa
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    They need ilvl syncs for everything to be honest. Especially the Crystal tower raids. People remove gear to join so they get an easy 30 minute raid which means whenever you join ally raids, you are going to get crystal tower 99% of the time unless it's a tomestone event. If crystal tower raids took as long and were as "hard" as other raids, people wouldn't be joining up naked all the time resulting in some much needed diversity for the roulettes.
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  4. #34
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    They need ilvl syncs for everything to be honest. Especially the Crystal tower raids. People remove gear to join so they get an easy 30 minute raid which means whenever you join ally raids, you are going to get crystal tower 99% of the time unless it's a tomestone event. If crystal tower raids took as long and were as "hard" as other raids, people wouldn't be joining up naked all the time resulting in some much needed diversity for the roulettes.
    This has been discussed many times that it’s beating a dead horse. There’s more than ilvl cheese causing these to pop up more than the others.
    1. Only CT is mandatory
    2. Some people haven’t unlocked anything beyond CT
    3. It only takes 1 low level doing the mandatory unlock to get CT to pop

    You are believing ilvl cheesers have more power than they do

    Also let’s stop making everything harder which ultimately gets less people to do them. Instead make others more enticing. Increase the rewards is an example.
    You may come to that conclusion yourself if your head wasn’t clouded with resentment
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  5. #35
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    This has been discussed many times that it’s beating a dead horse. There’s more than ilvl cheese causing these to pop up more than the others.
    1. Only CT is mandatory
    2. Some people haven’t unlocked anything beyond CT
    3. It only takes 1 low level doing the mandatory unlock to get CT to pop

    You are believing ilvl cheesers have more power than they do

    Also let’s stop making everything harder which ultimately gets less people to do them. Instead make others more enticing. Increase the rewards is an example.
    You may come to that conclusion yourself if your head wasn’t clouded with resentment
    Yo someone should make a thread about that. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Adeacia Lightheart
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    I'm terms of skipping mechanics, instead of giving the bosses more hp or whatever, just have the mechanic that was supposed to happen, happen anyway but the mechanic they would have jumped to also happens at the same time. Too much dps and a ton of mechs will happen all at once.

    Do an ARR fight unsynched and watch the trial boss suddenly do every single mechanic they have all at the exact same time. The boss will not die until all of them have gone off, and if it kills you, you still lose.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I'm terms of skipping mechanics, instead of giving the bosses more hp or whatever, just have the mechanic that was supposed to happen, happen anyway but the mechanic they would have jumped to also happens at the same time. Too much dps and a ton of mechs will happen all at once.

    Do an ARR fight unsynched and watch the trial boss suddenly do every single mechanic they have all at the exact same time. The boss will not die until all of them have gone off, and if it kills you, you still lose.
    This is somehow the worst idea in the entire thread. Congrats, that was expertly crafted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    This is somehow the worst idea in the entire thread. Congrats, that was expertly crafted.
    Oh look, someone who had to skip soar since they couldn't handle it. No mechanics should ever be possible to skip. You want to have too much dps? Deal with the consequences.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    Oh look, someone who had to skip soar since they couldn't handle it. No mechanics should ever be possible to skip. You want to have too much dps? Deal with the consequences.
    You should be rewarded for good performance and gearing up. Faster finishes on duty time and boss kills. Possibly skipping mechanics. Not punished for doing well. Such a stupid idea
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  10. #40
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    Mai Sakurajimaa
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    This has been discussed many times that it’s beating a dead horse. There’s more than ilvl cheese causing these to pop up more than the others.
    1. Only CT is mandatory
    2. Some people haven’t unlocked anything beyond CT
    3. It only takes 1 low level doing the mandatory unlock to get CT to pop

    You are believing ilvl cheesers have more power than they do

    Also let’s stop making everything harder which ultimately gets less people to do them. Instead make others more enticing. Increase the rewards is an example.
    You may come to that conclusion yourself if your head wasn’t clouded with resentment
    very rarely has a new player been doing CT from my experience.
    Maybe you're right on the fact that a lot of people have only unlocked CT... maybe a better solution would be to have CT only roulette and an ally raid roulette.

    Crystal tower isn't hard or even a challenge, you can do it blind folded due to the lack of sync as well as several other trials. Why shouldn't the group content in an MMORPG be a challenge and engaging. Personally, if anything, it was refreshing to actually have the nier raids last patch popping up on ally roulettes and the HW raids in the former pre patches. Just need the SB raids. Also, the rework of the main scenario dungeons actually presented a nice challenge and engaging content at least (albeit I still find them too boring to do due to the cutscenes).

    The only hard things in this game are savage/ultimate raids and I guess the deep dungeons albeit I only have experience with POTD so far and that is fine. If you are thinking that content outside of savage/ultimate etc is hard, then that's a skill issue on your part since this game is incredibly accessible and generally speaking, if you wipe (at least on European servers) someone will explain tactics rather than leave). There's only been a few exceptions where I have had multiple wipes and players leave which coincidently resolved the wipe issue.
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