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  1. #1
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    Remember_The_Name's Avatar
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    Caroline Frost
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post


    L M A O

    What the actual hell? That's what no item level sync does to the game. And with people gearing up to 660 Ilvl, the integrity of the fight will be out of the window. I imagine, some time later, new players will be seeing Nald'Thal "scale" mechanic only in the guide videos at this point.
    And, what is a hundred times worse, people will start to think that killing the boss before she tosses her 2nd "enrage" at the party is actually an intended design. Dear Lord...

    Just checked, min Ilvl Endsinger player HP are (exact numbers depends on the job):

    Tank: 65-68k
    Healer: 40-41k
    DPS: 40-45k

    And the fight actually starts to be somewhat interesting. Planets takes out 90% of squishy hp, at least.
    Now compare to this clown fiesta on your screenshot. What a sick and unfun joke of a design.

    "JuSt MaKe a PaRtY FinDeR wItH miN ItEm LevEl!"

    Great advise that 99% of first timers will surely follow.

    SE, this cannot continue...
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    Last edited by Remember_The_Name; 07-03-2023 at 09:14 AM.

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    Minali Flo'uf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remember_The_Name View Post
    What the actual hell? That's what no item level sync does to the game. And with people gearing up to 660 Ilvl, the integrity of the fight will be out of the window. I imagine, some time later, new players will be seeing Nald'Thal "scale" mechanic only in the guide videos at this point.
    And, what is a hundred times worse, people will start to think that killing the boss before she tosses her 2nd "enrage" at the party is actually an intended design. Dear Lord...
    "Wait what, a Tank LB3 thing? Has this mechanic always been here?"
    - someone playing it in 2025 with 7 first timers, probably

    Btw, if the team is good enough/well geared enough, it is already possible to skip the scales at Nald'Thal. Haven't experienced it myself yet, but heard it from a few friends. It's absurd.
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minali View Post
    "Wait what, a Tank LB3 thing? Has this mechanic always been here?"
    - someone playing it in 2025 with 7 first timers, probably
    That comment is already viable for normal content. LBs are almost exclusively for DPS, only in alliance raids its sometimes for healers. We dont need to wait until 2025 for that.

    Tank lbs are only relevant in extreme/savage like content. Which most players wont even play until they are in the endgame
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    That comment is already viable for normal content. LBs are almost exclusively for DPS, only in alliance raids its sometimes for healers. We dont need to wait until 2025 for that.

    Tank lbs are only relevant in extreme/savage like content. Which most players wont even play until they are in the endgame
    Maybe I worded my post a bit misleading. I was specifically talking about the final 6.0 trial, not all duties in general. I was implying when everyone is massively overgeared players would be able to skip the tank LB alltogether, making it a bigger surprise than usual when it does come up after all. Obviously it's a bit of an exaggeration considering that part of the fight is probably mandatory and would still happen with the boss being at 0.1% health.
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    I make it a point to slow my damage on Endsinger nowadays, especially if I see new players in the duty.
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    Azephia Dawn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    For a game that Yoshida is so proud and excited about (paraphrasing) "making possible to play the Story entirely solo, like a single player Final Fantasy game"...

    ...it is reeeeeeeeeally strange "he" (used in the metonymic sense) also decides that those "new players" who "want to solo" and "don't want to engage with other players in combat content"...

    ...also apparently will be happy with having to engage with other players in some of the most significant Story moments of every single expansion, while said other-players's 100-iLevel advantage causes said Story moment to melt like a butter-insulated fission reactor??

    Quote Originally Posted by Excited and Passionate MMO Soloer
    Wow I'm so glad Duty Support is here, so I don't have to have other people pressuring me to rush through this Dungeon and its story, and I can adventure with my NPC friends, and I don't have to stress about talking to people!
    Quote Originally Posted by Excited and Passionate MMO Soloer
    Oh but also, I'm totally cool with, and totally enjoying, having to group up with 7 other actual players periodically in order to be rushed through an epic Boss encounter that the Story built up to... and be told by the Community™ to open up my Party chat and beg 7 strangers to sandbag their DPS so that I can actually see all the dialogue lines and encounter mechanics!
    It's like... :confused_emoji:
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    Malboro
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    I just did Shiva the other day. We almost killed her before she did the transition phase. Was terrible to see.

    I really feel bad for any new player playing the content right now.
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    Lufir Lumini
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    Leviathan
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    Yea as someone who got the EW final trial through roulette, this definitely needs to be toned down so first timers can experience how epic the finale is supposed to be.
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    Knives Jonquil
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    People need to inform them of this at Fan Fest. Assuming they don't already know. Because they don't exactly keep in contact with us outside of Live Letters and stuff nowadays, and that's always one-sided anyway.
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I actually hold back on DPS when I get the 6.0 last MSQ trial because of this. They need ilvl caps on some current, and most older, things in the game
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

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