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    My hopes for the future of Endwalker (Spoilers for 5.5 and 6.4 patch MSQ)

    Hello everyone, hope you are well.
    How are you all enjoying the new patch?

    I wanted to take a moment to discuss a, concern of mine, more so a hope, for the end of Endwalker's MSQ.

    Back in Shadowbringers we were introduced to the lunar primals near the end towards the setup for the start of Endwalker, one of which, was lunar Bahamut. When first introduced, I was looking forward to a trial around it, being it seemed pretty significant at the time within the story, and because it's Bahamut of all things.

    I was happy that there was a chance at a trial against him, but he got shafted to a DNG boss. Which kinda disappointed me, (not even a bahamut minion )

    Bring it back to the new current MSQ, and we are introduced to the Ze man at the end, and is shown to be a big deal.

    That's what I want it to be, I hope that they don't put Ze at the end of some dungeon as a wall boss, given how "strong" it is. Heck lets make it like E8 and have 0 or someone help us in the end.

    What do you all think?

    Thank you for your time!
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    I really hope they don't have a major trial battle of any kind at the end of the 6.X patch storyline as we've just had three trial battles already in succession, so it's getting a bit full (compare with ShB's patch story that only had a single trial in the whole 5.X patch storyline) - hence I'm expecting
    Zeromous to be like Shinryu and pull a SB and suddenly appear from stage left and menace everyone... and then disappear for later and remain completely out of the picture to reappear sometime in 7.0).

    Funnily enough I'd predicted that Zeromous was going to be a part of EW even before EW launched (although I didn't get right where he appears - I thought he'd be the final boss and was a result of Zenos fusing with Zodiark after killing Fandaniel, obviously that didn't happen)., so I got one thing right at least.


    Also there is a Bahamut minion in the game - however he hasn't been available for the better part of 8 years (he was included as a bonus with the ARR OST album), and so sadly, is now forever unattainable... plus.. he has half a malteezer stuck to his head which makes him look more silly than threatening.
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    For what its worth, Yoshida has been very forthcoming that this arc is only for 6.X and 7.0 will take us elsewhere. This is a void episode; his exact words, so what happened in 6.4 will end in 6.5— it has to for them to move onto the following arc.

    There's also no reason why said event should extend into the next expansion as in the game it debuted in, it also appeared at the very end.

    It's thematic and matches the source material. 6.1 to 6.5 is just the trial series given MSQ relevance, its not going to continue beyond this—that's already confirmed.

    I really hope they don't have a major trial battle of any kind at the end of the 6.X patch storyline as we've just had three trial battles already in succession, so it's getting a bit full (compare with ShB's patch story that only had a single trial in the whole 5.X patch storyline) - hence I'm expecting
    Yoshida said back around 6.1 that every 6.X patch after would have a story trial, as they combined the trial series and the the MSQ this time around.
    So sorry to disappoint people but we've already been told verbatim that this void stuff will be wrapped up and done and dusted before 7.0
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    This is a possible outcome

    I actually dont think we will destroy Zeromus, he is way too powerful....my guess is this will be a holding action, not enough to kill, but just enough to banish him. Not dead, just blocked or "chained" as Zodiark was.

    The Watcher will have a new prisoner to monitor VERY carefully. With the brands repaired, this would seem to be the best way to , for now, deal with this menace.
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    Thank you all for your responses! Much appreciated to see different P.O.Vs!
    Hope you all and whomever reads this has a great day and life!
    If ya need anything reach out!
    Toodles!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    This is a possible outcome

    I actually dont think we will destroy Zeromus, he is way too powerful....my guess is this will be a holding action, not enough to kill, but just enough to banish him. Not dead, just blocked or "chained" as Zodiark was.

    The Watcher will have a new prisoner to monitor VERY carefully. With the brands repaired, this would seem to be the best way to , for now, deal with this menace.
    Perhaps, but remember that

    Azdaja has to survive this story arc. It was already established that even after her becoming a voidsent and her being merged with Zodiark's remaining shard she can still be saved, the reason for that is that she will be saved. She's also a character that's too big for the story to kill, imagine how hurt our friend Vrtra would be if she died. So no, she will survive and therefore we must extract her and thus the desire to return to the source from Zeromus.
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    Having a primary villain be one ripped from another main series title, beyond a patch, is just a bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Also there is a Bahamut minion in the game - however he hasn't been available for the better part of 8 years (he was included as a bonus with the ARR OST album), and so sadly, is now forever unattainable... plus.. he has half a malteezer stuck to his head which makes him look more silly than threatening.
    He's my most precious and beloved minion...my little babby Bahamut with his little Dalamud. He's so adorable. <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    I really hope they don't have a major trial battle of any kind at the end of the 6.X patch storyline as we've just had three trial battles already in succession, so it's getting a bit full (compare with ShB's patch story that only had a single trial in the whole 5.X patch storyline) - hence I'm expecting
    Zeromous to be like Shinryu and pull a SB and suddenly appear from stage left and menace everyone... and then disappear for later and remain completely out of the picture to reappear sometime in 7.0).

    Funnily enough I'd predicted that Zeromous was going to be a part of EW even before EW launched (although I didn't get right where he appears - I thought he'd be the final boss and was a result of Zenos fusing with Zodiark after killing Fandaniel, obviously that didn't happen)., so I got one thing right at least.


    Also there is a Bahamut minion in the game - however he hasn't been available for the better part of 8 years (he was included as a bonus with the ARR OST album), and so sadly, is now forever unattainable... plus.. he has half a malteezer stuck to his head which makes him look more silly than threatening.
    Although in this case it seems like the
    "four lords and Golbez" was our trio Trail this post expansion patch cycle, leaving us with the Niddhogg, Tsuyu, WoL type of Trial which most likely will be Zeromous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    Having a primary villain be one ripped from another main series title, beyond a patch, is just a bad idea.
    This is no different to the Crystal Tower series, in fact it's still the Void and it's the next game in succession.
    It'll culminate in a trial against Zeromus in 6.5, to conclude the patch arc, free Azdaja, and set up shard travel. There'll be some drama involving Zero to give us something "unexpected", and maybe we get a resolution for Durante and Golbez.

    More mysterious letters for Y'shtola and G'raha, then we'll fine out what they're all about in 6.58

    The only real unknown for 6.5 is what the dungeon is and how they get to the First.
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