endwalker seen as low point?

[Saraide]

Just to name a few: Some people heavily disliked the story, some people heavily dislike the job design, some people heavily dislike the encounter design (not exclusively to endwalker, more a continuation of shb), some people heavily dislike this expansion's relic.

[Rolder50]

Just to name a few: Some people heavily disliked the story, some people heavily dislike the job design, some people heavily dislike the encounter design (not exclusively to endwalker, more a continuation of shb), some people heavily dislike this expansion's relic.

I'll take "All of the above" thank you.

[SassyAssassin]

A streamer said it so it must be true

[Enkidoh]

That statement is extremely subjective, but it's mainly just bad blood with how the story was handled (mostly players were upset with how the Ancients/Ascians and Garleans were treated - there was much disappointment Garlemald was only visited after it was already destroyed by it's own hand,

and with the Elpis time loop complicating things and Venat's reasons for the Sundering being actually morally murky, retconning everything that had come before, and that it is impossible not to raise an eyebrow at the rather ludicious concept that everything that is wrong with the universe is simply because a space probe got depressed.

).

There was also a lot of upset players more annoyed with "lack of content" (read: hard end-game content) in the post-launch patch period compared with earlier expansions, and changes they didn't agree with to certain classes and Jobs (SMN, healers etc). My personal take is I still thoroughly enjoyed it even despite a couple of minor gripes (again connected to some very minor odd retcons in the storyline), but I still consider it a fitting finale to the '1.0-begun' storyline.

Everyone's own opinions are unique though so don't listen to what others say and make your own judgement.

[Denishia]

The revisionist history turning positively on Stormblood has been amusing to watch from the sidelines as well.

[vanaii]

The revisionist history turning positively on Stormblood has been amusing to watch from the sidelines as well.

Very. I considered it okay when I went through it, but that's been a while. I look forward to seeing what it's like the second time through.

Consensus used to be "very ok story but the content was awesome."

[Boblawblah]

Very. I considered it okay when I went through it, but that's been a while. I look forward to seeing what it's like the second time through.

Consensus used to be "very ok story but the content was awesome."

Time changes many things. I get a laugh watching the final fantasy subreddit discussing the games now. FFXIII fans now feel free to state it's their favorite game in the series and I'll actually see FFVI get 'eh, it's not as good as people say it is' now.

I wonder how long after XVI will people be able to say "Eh, it wasn't that good" without getting mobbed?

On topic: OP, assuming this is a serious post, you're asking a massive group of people to come to a consensus on how something is viewed, that's just not going to happen. People all have different opinions on how something was received. Strictly dollars-wise however, Endwalker was extremely successful.

[Platinumstorm]

The revisionist history turning positively on Stormblood has been amusing to watch from the sidelines as well.

I hated Stormblood. It was a boring expansion, but the patch content is the best the entire game has seen.

[NekoMataMata]

Endwalker being a low point implies that its the worst expansion. I brought up a worse expansion.

Please, explain how that's whataboutism. I'll wait.

The title says seen as low point. It doesn't have to be the lowest point, so you bringing up an expansion you consider worse is whataboutism. You trying to deflect and misdefine the idea of what OP meant as a low point doesn't change that. If they wanted to say "the worst expansion" then surely they would have outright said it.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

The title says seen as low point. It doesn't have to be the lowest point, so you bringing up an expansion you consider worse is whataboutism. You trying to deflect and misdefine the idea of what OP meant as a low point doesn't change that. If they wanted to say "the worst expansion" then surely they would have outright said it.

Yes, you absolutely are trying to misdefine the idea of what OP meant as low point through petty semantics. "Low point" means the worst part of the game.

Now, based on how you came straight out of the gate accusing me of malice when it was at worst a misunderstanding, I can tell that you've dug the hole too deep and aren't going to concede this, so I'm not going to argue it with you. But if your ego is so tiny that you feel the need to get the last word in, go ahead, I'll let you have it.

Thank you for reminding me why I'm happy the devs don't actually read these forums.